From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Apr 14 06:26:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12778 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:26:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12771 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:26:05 GMT (envelope-from stefan@promo.de) Received: from stefan.promo.de (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA00910; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:18:51 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:21:33 +0200 From: "Stefan Bethke" To: "Matthew D. Fuller" cc: Mike , "Chuck Robey" , "John Birrell" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the place of vi Message-ID: <967847.3101556093@stefan.promo.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry Demo (MacOS) [1.3.2, s/n Evaluation] X-Licensed-To: Unlicensed - for evaluation only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --On Die, 14. Apr 1998 8:12 Uhr -0500 "Matthew D. Fuller" wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Mike wrote: > I guess my point is I agree with what you're saying, but not with what > you're SAYING. I think the line should be drawn at vi, not below it. > What're you going to say to a poor non-hacker when their system fails to > mount their /usr partition, and you can just BARELY convince them that vi > is usable? What're the chances that your recent convert from Windows is > going to believe in FreeBSD's superiority when they have no recource but > to use ed when they make one small mistake somewhere?? When was the last time you guys looked in /stand? # /stand/ee or $ man ee Might not quite emacs, but surely better suited for that Windoze convert than vi ... Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message