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Date:      Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:21:07 +0200
From:      "Bertrand" <bib@infomaniak.ch>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        barbish@a1poweruser.com
Subject:   can't start installation on ASUS P2L97-S
Message-ID:  <298430-2200274119217578@infomaniak.ch>

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Dear all,
I can't start FreeBSD installation either from CD, nor from Floppy. 
System hangs at hw probe in a fashion that i can't interprete. 
BIOS upgrade, removing physical hw equipment, disabling devices at
bios level didn't helped at all (Please, have a look at history below
for details).

Please, notice also that:
1. Booting and installing Slackware Linux 8.1 CD on this system 
   succeed without any problems
2. Booting an OpenBSD 2.9 install CD succeeded without any problems.
   I canceled the installation process, exiting fdisk and disklabel
   utilities without changes.

I love :-) FreeBSD and would not like to changes OS while there
is a chance to overcome this problem, which may result from a
lack of knoledges of myself (i still consider my self as a newbe,
although i made successfull FreeBSD installs on a few systems,
including athlon, PIII, 586 and 486).

Special thank's to Joe & Fhe for theire help.
Kindest regards
Bertand


---- Original Message ----
De: bib@infomaniak.ch
A: questions@freebsd.org, 
Objet: RE: unable to boot install disc 1 on asus p2l97-s (ERRATA)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:08:21 +0200

>Joe and Fhe,
>
>Many thanks for your answer.
>Accordingly your tips, I eliminated as much hardware as possible,
>reviewed jumper settings, bios setup, and made following 5 tests.
>
>Before doing it, I updated bios to the last production release for
>this board, i,e:
>  AWARD Modular BIOS v4.51PG
>  Asus P2L97-S ACPI BIOS Revision 1005
>
>IN ALL CASES, i had the same hangsup problem. My system hangsup at
>probe.
>
>Test 1.
>-------
>   ATA IDE-only, booting on CD disc 1 with:
>   3c905 network adapter removed
>   PNPBios disabled
>   IDE disk as master on primary ctrlr
>   CD as master on secondary ctrlr
>   SCSI devices physicaly NOT connected at all
>   SCSI controler not removed because embeded on board
>   FreeBSD kernel config menu left  untouched
>
>Test 2.
>-------
>   ATA IDE-only, booting on CD disk 1, same as test 1
>   with following changes:
>   IDE disk as master on primary ctrl
>   CD as slave on primary ctrl
>
>Test 3.
>-------
>   ATA IDE-only, booting on Floppy discs, same as test 2
>   with following changes:
>   CD reader physicaly not connected at all
>
>Test 4.
>-------
>   Same as test 1, with following changes in order to read 
>   earlyer screen messages:
>   All removable devices (except kbd) wendt removed from FreeBSD
>   kernel config menu
>
>   I booted twice, with following options:
>
>   4.1 Normal boot
>   4.2 'boot -v' option
>
>
>4.1 normal boot messages reports:
>
> isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 4.0 on pci0
> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
> atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA 33 controller> port 0xb800-0xb80f at \
>          device 4.1 on pci0
> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
> uhci0: ...
> pci-cfgintr-virgin: using routable interrupt 3
> pci-cfgintr: 0:4 INTD routed to irq 3
> usb0: ...
> uhub0: ...
> uhub0: ...
> chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power ...> port 0xe800-0xe80f at device 4.3 \
>        on pci0
> ahc0: <Adaptec aic7880 Ultra SCSI adapter> port 0xb000-0xb0ff \
>       mem 0xe1000000-0xe1000fff irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci0
> aic7880: Ultra Wide chanel A, SCSI ID=7, 16/253 SCBs
> orm0: ...
> atkbdc0: ...
> vga0: ...
> sc0: <system console> ...
> sc0: VGA ...
>
> <HANGS HERE> (please, remember that all removable device wendt
>removed)
>
>
>4.2 boot -v reports:
>
> ...
> (all disabled devices shown as disabled)
> ...
> isa-probe-children: probing PnP devices
>
> <HANGS HERE> (please, remember PnP bios is disabled in bios setup)
>
>
>Test 5.
>-------
>  SCSI only, ATA IDE controllers disabled at bios level, 
>  boot on Floppies
>  ATA devices phisicaly not connected
>
>
>Furthermore, checking output of dmesg after having booted with
>slackware linux install cd, i could see that ata probe is done after
>seting PCI latency to 64, sothat I repeated test 1 after having set
>PCI latency to the same value at bios level. 
>This didn't helped either :-((
>
>Maybe, this trouble has something to do with INT Lines A, B, C, D.
>Unfortunatly, there are no options in order to map freely at bios
>level those lines to choosen PCI devices.
>
>Any tips still wellcome :-)
>
>Again, many thanks for your hand.
>kindest regards
>Bertrand
>
>
>---- Original Message ----
>De: barbish@a1poweruser.com
>A: bib@infomaniak.ch, 
>Objet: RE: unable to boot install disc 1 on asus p2l97-s (ERRATA)
>Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:21:04 -0400
>
>>Lets use the 'process of elimination method' to debug your system.
>>Remove SCSI control board and disk drive from system, Put ide disk 
>as
>>master on primary cable and CD-drive as master on secondary cable.
>>Be sure to set drive jumper to master and not CS cable select.
>>Use pnpbios disabled.
>>Try again.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bertrand
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 5:19 AM
>>To: questions@freebsd.org
>>Subject: Re: unable to boot install disc 1 on asus p2l97-s (ERRATA)
>>
>>Dear all,
>>Regarding my previous message of yesterday, i changed my hardware
>>and made some more testing.
>>
>>1. Hardware
>>-----------
>> Asus p2l97-s with adaptec 7880 and intel piix4 controllers
>> 1x IDE disk (ST36531A - dosn't mater)
>> 1x ATAPI CD-driver (Creative CD 5230E)
>> 1x SCSI disk (DNES-309170W)
>> 256Mb RAM
>>
>>2. Bios Settings
>>----------------
>> With pnpbios enabled
>> With pnpbios disabled
>> With IDE as first boot device
>> With SCSI as first boot device
>> in all case, boot set to: "CDROM, C, A"
>>
>> Yesterday, I also tryed booting with floppies without greater
>> success.
>>
>>3. FreeBSD 4.6 boot behaviour
>>-----------------------------
>> Booting from install disc 1 CDrom.
>>
>>3.1 BTX reports strange Bios drives (comments are my one):
>>----------------------------------------------------------
>> BIOS drive A: is disk 0
>> BIOS drive B: is disk 1
>> BIOS drive C: is disk 2     # <--- !!!
>> BIOS drive C: is disk 3     # <--- !!!
>> BIOS drive D: is disk 4
>>
>> Why drive C twice ?
>>
>>3.2 lsdev output
>>----------------
>> Stoping boot process at boot prompt in order to launch lsdev.
>> Here is the full output of this command:
>>
>> cd@0xff2c
>> disk@0xef38
>>
>>    disk0: Bios drive A:
>>        disk0a: FFS
>>        disk0c: FFS
>>    disk1: Bios drive B:
>>    disk2: Bios drive C:
>>
>> int=0000 0000 err=0000 0000 efl=0001 0246 eip=0000 f99d
>> eax=0000 0000 ebx=0009 4d28 ecx=0000 a000 edx=0000 0000
>> esi=0009 4ad4 edi=0009 4d10 ebp=0009 4aac exp=0009 4a74
>> cs=002b ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033
>> cs:eip=f7 75 fc 89 45 f8 89 d0 - 8b 4d 08 31 d2 f7 71 10
>> ss:esp=28 4d 09 00 4c 83 03 00 - 10 4d 09 00 84 40 09 00
>> BTX halted
>>
>>
>>Any way to workaround this problem ?
>>Many thanks in advance for your help
>>Kindest regards
>>Bertrand
>>
>>
>>
>>------------ Original message begins here
>>
>>Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:31:02 +0200
>>From: "Bertrand" <bib@infomaniak.ch>
>>Subject: unable to boot install disc 1 on asus p2l97-s
>>
>>Dear all,
>>I started a new FreeBSD 4.6 installation on an ASUS P2L97-s board
>>with onboard Adaptec 7880 scsi as well as PIIX4 ATA-IDE controlers.
>>On this system, IDE is only used for ATAPI CD Drive.
>>
>>Unfortunatly, there is no way to get sysinstall up and running.
>>When I try to boot with either FreeBSD disc 1 CD, disc 2 CD or
>>generated boot floppies, boot process hangsup right after having
>>probed serial and parallel interfaces, whitch seems to indicate
>>a failure of the ata devices probe.
>>
>>Please, notice also:
>>I had the same behaviour after having completly disabled IDE at bios
>>level.
>>I had the same behaviour after trying with FreeBSD 4.5 boot CD.
>>Hmm, finaly I had no problem at all trying to reinstall linux (!)
>>
>>Furthermore, i tryied to stop boot process at boot loader prompt,
>>running lsdev in order to see what wendt wrong... the system
>>crashed gracefully :(
>>I have absolute no idea about interpreting the output below,
>>after my signature.
>>
>>Would someone be nice enough in giving me some tips for resolving
>>this issue ?
>>
>>Many thanks in advance
>>Kindest regards
>>
>>Bertrand
>>
>>- ----------------------------------------------------------
>>Here is the output of lsdev:
>>
>>int=0000 0000 err=0000 0000 efl=0001 0246 eip=0000 f99d
>>eax=0000 0000 ebx=0009 4d28 ecx=0000 a000 edx=0000 0000
>>esi=0009 4ad4 edi=0009 4d10 ebp=0009 4aac exp=0009 4a74
>>cs=002b ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033
>>cs:eip=f7 75 fc 89 45 f8 89 d0 - 8b 4d 08 31 d2 f7 71 10
>>ss:esp=28 4d 09 00 4c 83 03 00 - 10 4d 09 00 84 40 09 00
>>BTX halted
>>
>>- -----------------------------------------------------------
>>
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