From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 13 22:32:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20D216A420 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:32:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grtodd@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5328943D96 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:31:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grtodd@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so879534wxc for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:31:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=cek4Lv/4/GU2kgfOS8oxKOX8XugEEA1a9WLyBRs4o+rqx1e+aG92dMfWC5nMw6ilh+tFu5fcFspFCj5K4sBjDjUIjyIW4fX9yahJGl2RCBiY+ZztDhx9Fx+n2DEddX493yk47BxpbbJtOSFF1kbQ9I/Wpq8mp9fyqwbsXxrKB+8= Received: by 10.70.88.6 with SMTP id l6mr6825110wxb; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.10.10.24? ( [198.62.158.205]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i11sm3866046wxd.2006.03.13.14.31.25; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:31:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4415F2B6.2020603@bellanet.org> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:31:18 -0500 From: Graham Todd User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org References: <20060311213529.epb13ogpggk00ws0@mail.bafirst.com> <20060312042329.GA72610@mail.scottro.net> <17428.17308.781505.771684@roam.psg.com> <20060313.092930.98861031.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060313.092930.98861031.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "G. Robert Todd" Cc: Subject: Re: flash and firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:32:29 -0000 M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <17428.17308.781505.771684@roam.psg.com> > Randy Bush writes: > : > The problems with linuxpluginwrapper exist in RELENG_6 as well. > : > Actually, I've had better luck with flash and linux-firefox on CURRENT > : > than I have on 6.1-PRERELEASE. > : > > : > The problems with acrobat reader are also in 6.1-PRERELEASE. Running > : > them both, one at home, one at work, I haven't found any real difference > : > in how various ports work, save for the abovementioned, that > : > linux-firefox works better with flash in CURRENT. > : > : how the heck did you get it to run at all in current? > > I'm running -current with FreeBSD native firefox and acroread. I'm > able to read pdfs no problem. Flash, alas, I've not managed to get > working. I get sporadically working flash support on FreeBSD. On 6.0 RELEASE it will occasionally work, but usually shows a grey box where the flash application is supposed to be running. Right-clicking in this box does bring up the "Settings" and "About Macromedia Flash" menus but the application itself doesn't appear. I've adjusted libmap.conf, tried different versions of ffox, flash, etc. but it seems that flash - and especially complex applications like Flickr's "Organizr" application or Google Video http://video.google.com) embedded Flash Video - is difficult to get (and keep) working. Working combinations of flash/ffox/skype/libmap.conf are easy to break top - an enthusiastic portupgrade is all it takes :) But when compat apps don't run well "out of the box" - unlike most things FreeBSD which seem to "just work", I'm not sure how to file bugs since the issues often seem complicated and difficult to debug: e.g. related to threading or ELF versioning or something that's tricky and time consuming for developers to fix and might well be related to my own compat support being hosed somehow. Compat support just seems hard to do :-\ I'm impressed it is done as well as it is. One other compat application that rarely works correctly on FreeBSD for me is Skype. It could be a problem between screen and chair of course, but if anyone with a working setup for these apps has thoroughly documented how they did things, I'd gladly RTFM :) -- Graham Todd