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Date:      Tue, 30 May 2000 20:40:34 +0200 (CEST)
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= <groudier@club-internet.fr>
To:        Lee Cremeans <lcremeans@erols.com>
Cc:        freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Symbios dual ultra-wide woes
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005302020001.1359-100000@linux.local>
In-Reply-To: <20000529202320.A403@lcremeans.erols.com>

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On Mon, 29 May 2000, Lee Cremeans wrote:

> I just got a Symbios SYM22801 (53C876-based) card handed to me last week,
> and I decided to put it in my machine to replace a less-capable Adaptec
> AVA-2904. I've run into an interesting problem. I'm not sure if it's
> cabling-related or not, but the cables do seem to make a difference.
>=20
> Here's how my setup works:
>    =20
>       ID 5                                   ID 6
> +-----------------+                  +-----------------+
> |  UMAX  scanner  |----narrow SCSI---|  Archive DDS-1  |
> |  (Astra 1220S)  |     =09     |                 |
> +-----------------+---terminator     +-----------------+
> =09=09=09=09=09=09       |
> =09=09=09=09=09=09       |
> CS Electronics 68-pin VHDCI<->50-pin Amphenol cable -->|
> =09=09=09=09=09=09       |
> =09=09=09=09     +----------------------+
> =09=09=09=09     |     (ext 68-pin)     |
> =09=09=09             |  SYM22801 channel B  |=09
> =09=09=09=09     |                      |
> =09=09=09=09     |     (int 50-pin)     |
> =09=09=09=09     +----------------------+=09
>   =09=09=09=09=09=09|
> =09=09=09=09=09=09|  ID 4
> =09=09=09=09     +----------------------+
> =09=09=09=09     |    TEAC CD-R55S=09    |
> =09=09=09=09     |=09  (terminated)=09    |
> =09=09=09=09     +----------------------+

> Now, here's the interesting part.=20
>=20
> - When I have *only* the external cable connected, the channel works with=
out
> errors.
>=20
> - When I have *only* the CD-R55 connected, it also works fine.=20
>=20
> - If I have the external stuff on channel A, and the internal stuff on
> channel B (or vice versa), that works.
>=20
> - However, when I have both connected to channel B, I get this mess:=20
>=20
> sym1:4: ERROR (0:48) (2-21-0) (f/35) @ (scriptb 2e8:11000020).
                    ^
This '8' means `SCSI GROSS ERROR'
When such error happens, it is likely the SCSI BUS that is not good enough
or has flaws.

> sym1: script cmd =3D 88080000
> sym1: regdump: da 10 80 35 47 0f 04 0a 01 02 00 21 80 01 09 00 00 52 dc 0=
1
> 08 ff ff ff.
> (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset detected.
>=20
> over and over again, until I reboot the machine. I've not yet tried the o=
ld
> ncr driver on it.

In my opinion, miracle will not occur with the `ncr', but this should be
tried anyway.

> I've tried setting the channel switches to INT50 ON and
> HIGH TERM ON, but to no avail.

HIGH TERM ON / LOW TERM OFF looks correct. I donnot have the doc of this
controller, but if it is possible to also force the other terminator part
to OFF, this could not be bad. I don't know what INT50 ON means.

> I could put the CD-R on channel A for now, but when I get a SCSI disk to
> go there, I want to reserve channel A for it and other-high speed stuff, =
and
> channel B for the slow things. Any idea what's going on here?=20

I would suspect the following causes in that order:

- The auto-termination stuff of the controller being confused by the
  external 68-50 converter.
- The scanner making some shit on the BUS.
- A not good enough or just bad cable chunk or terminator.
- A flaw or unexpected feature of the 68-50 converter.

Regards,
   G=E9rard.



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