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Date:      Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:34:26 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Kenneth Wayne Culver <culverk@wam.umd.edu>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <questions@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 4.0 release
Message-ID:  <19991004103426.Z40186@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910031005060.5235-100000@rac3.wam.umd.edu>; from Kenneth Wayne Culver on Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 10:06:52AM -0400
References:  <19991003093310.E40186@freebie.lemis.com> <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910031005060.5235-100000@rac3.wam.umd.edu>

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On Sunday,  3 October 1999 at 10:06:52 -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Saturday,  2 October 1999 at  7:45:26 -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday,  1 October 1999 at  7:11:12 +0000, Sabre wrote:
>>>>>> The questions was "What can I expect from 4.0-RELEASE?" The answer is:
>>>>>> 1) Installation bugs. x.0 releases are always a test of grit. :-)
>>>>>> 2) A tight, small kernel with hot loadable module support.
>>>>>> 3) Vastly improved NFS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ya, better NFS!  Actually, I'm quite happy with the NFS stuff I have now
>>>>> setup (got the permissions all setup and everything is running great :)
>>>>> The hot loadable kernel is going to ROCK!
>>>>
>>>> The kernel won't be hot loadable, you'll just be able to load
>>>> modules.  In fact, you can do that with 3.3, so this isn't specific to
>>>> 4.0.
>>>
>>> I was under the impression, (maybe I'm wrong here) that 4.0-RELEASE will
>>> have nearly all the drivers configurable to run as modules or compiled
>>> into the kernel.
>>
>> Well, there isn't much alternative, and that's the way it is with
>> 3.3-RELEASE.  There will be relatively few differences in 4.0, though
>> some programs will attempt to load a module if they find it isn't in
>> the kernel.
>
> I just thought it would be cool maybe to have modules for the sound driver
> too. And maybe for the scsi drivers. I mean to give those linux people
> another reason to switch. (If we make this an option, many people will
> switch from linux, A lot of my friends wouldn't switch until I told them
> that FreeBSD has KLDs, which are very similar to linux kernel modules)

I'm a fan of klds, but I don't think they're that important, and they
pose some interesting problems, which Linux hasn't attempted to
solve.  I don't expect the SCSI driver to be modularized in the near
future, but it's possible that sound would be.

Greg
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