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Date:      Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:59:55 +0000
From:      Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Pietro Cerutti <gahr@gahr.ch>, wenheping <wenheping2000@hotmail.com>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, owner-ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r410453 - in head/math/fityk: . files
Message-ID:  <20160308165955.GB50159@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <731F52BF0474DA3AD0CC4A5E@ogg.in.absolight.net>
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On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 04:25:30PM +0100, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> +--On 8 mars 2016 16:06:59 +0100 Pietro Cerutti <gahr@gahr.ch> wrote:
> | So, danfe@, would you mind explaining to me on which basis muting MKDIRs
> | is "at one's discretion" while muting INSTALLs is "actually wrong"?
> | 
> | Given the evidence pointed at by mat@, either both muting MKDIR and
> | INSTALL commands is at one's discretion, or neither is.
> 
> Ok, the IMPORTANT bit here, is that the *install* phase is the most
> important one from the end-user point of view.
> 
> It's where things go live, and his system is modified.

Not in the post-staging era, where *install* phase modifies bits under the
$stagedir.  For package users it's even less important for obvious reasons.

Basically, making those commands vocal is beneficial for us porters and
maintainers, not for the "end-users".

> So we want to show up things thare are modifying his system.  All of them.
> 
> Some argue that mkdir are not that important and can be muted, I kinda
> disagree.

As they say, we agree to disagree. ;-)

> And as the doc is how portmgr thinks things should be (in that case, it's
> been a couple of years where that means what *I* think), well, it's how I
> documented it.

Sorry, but that hardly backs up that what you "kinda disagree" about should
make its way into official documentation so easily.

./danfe



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