From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 07:17:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299F216A4CF for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (krusty.dt.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A941843FE1 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:17:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de) Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1])9BA6E16ED0 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:17:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 8323E9E88A; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:04:46 +0100 (CET) To: Bruce Evans In-Reply-To: <20031206232721.H4483@gamplex.bde.org> (Bruce Evans's message of "Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:32:22 +1100 (EST)") References: <20031126183744.GA9140@merlin.emma.line.org> <20031206151011.S1934@gamplex.bde.org> <200312061047.48877.avleeuwen@piwebs.com> <20031206232721.H4483@gamplex.bde.org> From: Matthias Andree Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:04:46 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Arjan van Leeuwen cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2-BETA: giving up on 4 buffers (ata) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:17:16 -0000 Bruce Evans writes: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Arjan van Leeuwen wrote: > >> On Saturday 06 December 2003 05:33, Bruce Evans wrote: >> > As a workaround, unmount ext2fs file systems before rebooting. >> > Unmounting most file systems before rebooting should be the default >> > anyway (handled by shutdown(8) and reboot(8)), since unmounting may >> > fail and vfs_unmountall() in the kernel has no good way to log errors. >> >> Thanks. It won't help though, as I don't have any ext2fs file systems, only >> UFS. Also, my problem isn't 3 months old - I'm only seeing it since a few >> weeks. > > Oops. I haven't seen this problem with ffs, but I only use it with > old configuration options for stability and compatibility. Unmounting > should still help for other file systems. Makes me wonder what FreeBSD does on shutdown if not umount and how fragile the scheme is. -- Matthias Andree Encrypt your mail: my GnuPG key ID is 0x052E7D95