From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 4 18:52: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D5114D9B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 18:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@uk.radan.com) Received: from [158.152.75.22] (helo=uk.radan.com) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10TyWY-0002Qr-0A; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 01:50:02 +0000 Organisation: Radan Computational Ltd., Bath, UK. Phone: +44-1225-320320 Fax: +44-1225-320311 Received: from marder-1. (rasnt-1 [193.114.228.211]) by uk.radan.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id CAA00709; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 02:49:33 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id CAA00641; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 02:45:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 02:45:30 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Greg Lehey Cc: flygt@sr.se, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Timezone question Message-ID: <19990405024530.E257@marder-1.localhost> References: <19990404044642.A60884@sr.se> <19990404132026.T2142@lemis.com> <19990404125723.A61426@sr.se> <19990405010416.L299@marder-1.localhost> <19990405095153.I2142@lemis.com> <19990405015204.A257@marder-1.localhost> <19990405104028.K2142@lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990405104028.K2142@lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 10:40:28AM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 10:40:28AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 5 April 1999 at 1:52:05 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 09:51:53AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> On Monday, 5 April 1999 at 1:04:17 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > >>> > >>> Does FreeBSD update the RTC for Daylight Saving? > >> > >> You mean the clock? No. > >> > What do you mean by "correct"? My CMOS clock shows UTC, and that's > correct. Since UTC and GMT are pretty much the same thing, you might > consider UTC to currently be "incorrect". But I suppose you mean that > it's showing BST, right? > Yes > > Since you say FreeBSD doesn't change the CMOS clock > > I didn't say that. What did you mean by "No" in the first couple of lines quoted above? > adjkerntz *does* update the clock. Take a look at > the man page: it's extensive. > I've just looked at it. /etc/wall_cmos_clock exists so FreeBSD interprets the CMOS clock as local time. There is also the following entry in /etc/crontab: # time zone change adjustment for wall cmos clock, # does nothing, if you have UTC cmos clock. # See adjkerntz(8) for details. 1,31 0-4 * * * root /sbin/adjkerntz -a which I take to mean that my CMOS clock *was* adjusted by adjkerntz -a since I don't have a UTC CMOS clock (because of the existence of /etc/wall_cmos_clock). Is this correct? > > I don't have a problem, everything is working, I was just curious > > *why* it was working. > > Right. I think this is thanks to adjkerntz. > > > BTW, In a previous post of yours in this thread you mentioned about > > Windows not knowing about the TZ in Northern Territories, > > That's the Northern Territory. There's only one of them. > Damn. I was right. A question in the pub quiz tonight was "Which is the only Australian state without an 's' in it's name?". I rembered your e-mail and answered "Northern Territory" but was told I was wrong, it was Victoria. That's why I pluralized it in my e-mail, I thought I'd remembered your e-mail incorrectly. I shall take the matter up with the question-master. > > which from then on you referred to as NT. > > That's the official abbreviation. I know, but I didn't think I needed to tell _you_ that ;-) > > > The last sentence (I've deleted > > the message so I can't quote it verbatim) read something like > > "...obviously Windows doesn't know about NT". I don't know if the > > double entendre was intentional but it was highly amusing either > > way :-) > > What I said was: > > The version I have also seems to think that SA reaches all the way > to the north of the continent, eliminating the Northern Territory: > it believes that NT doesn't exist :-) > > And yes, the double entendre was intentional. That was the whole > point. I'm off to the AUUGwet conference in Darwin NT next week, and > I'm wondering how to bring the matter to their attention. > Turn up an hour late (or early?) for the conference and tell them their clocks are wrong, because Windows says so :-) > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:marko@uk.radan.com http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message