From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 09:21:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CDE16A4CE for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:21:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vscan01.westnet.com.au (vscan01.westnet.com.au [203.10.1.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADA843D81 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:21:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterh@10mbit.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01FB6F488 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:21:03 +0800 (WST) Received: from vscan01.westnet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vscan01.westnet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18767-06 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:21:03 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.254.2] (dsl-202-173-184-65.nsw.westnet.com.au [202.173.184.65]) by vscan01.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF935CCB33 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:20:56 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <4289B76B.5080009@10mbit.biz> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:20:43 +1000 From: Peter Hoskin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <42892C92.9020502@ccstores.com> <8eea04080505161652254d2a8c@mail.gmail.com> <200505162159.10019.asstec@matik.com.br> In-Reply-To: <200505162159.10019.asstec@matik.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: adsl setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:21:09 -0000 Suporte Matik wrote: >I heard this too, it was once in Tequilajuana wasn't it? >But I heard also it's better to look after an old water supply >company, seems the lead canes they used have better througput and >you might be able to get full-duplex adsl to each household. And if >it does not work out you still can melt them and make car batteries. >So no risk at all :) > > Its done in Australia with Privately Attached Phone Lines (PAPL) which is virtually a copper pair that runs from one premises to the other, without going via the exchange (but not always). If you're going to a different suburb which has its own exchange, it obviously travels through exchanges. Telstra recently started coiling all PAPL lines which makes operating DSL over them impossible. Wonder if the Canadian telecos offer anything like this. http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=dsl+papl&btnG=Google+Search&meta=lr%3Dlang_en has lots of info on the subject. Regards, Peter Hoskin 10mbit.biz