From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Mar 6 0:42:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from energyhq.homeip.net (213-97-200-73.uc.nombres.ttd.es [213.97.200.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DA537B400 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 00:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by energyhq.homeip.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EB3B33FC37; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:42:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:42:14 +0100 From: Miguel Mendez To: Kenneth Culver Cc: "Brian T.Schellenberger" , Nate Williams , Terry Lambert , "Steve B." , "Eugene L. Vorokov" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: C vs C++ Message-ID: <20020306094214.A96462@energyhq.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Kenneth Culver , "Brian T.Schellenberger" , Nate Williams , Terry Lambert , "Steve B." , "Eugene L. Vorokov" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020306030145.01E6ABA03@i8k.babbleon.org> <20020305225203.T7488-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020305225203.T7488-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org>; from culverk@alpha.yumyumyum.org on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:53:00PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:53:00PM -0500, Kenneth Culver wrote: > I've never really used Objective C, although didn't Next use that in > NextStep/OpenStep? Indeed, there's an ongoing effort called GNUStep which tries to build a compatible API, and Obj-C bindings for several toolkits, including GTK+. I'= ve only started playing with obj-c for a while, but it looks very good. When I find a project that I want to program using the OOP paradigm, I'm sure Obj-C will be my language of choice. In Obj-C, all OO features are totally orthogonal to the C language, it's very clear where you are using objects and where you are not, since the syntax differs completely from normal C code. On the other hand, C++ seems to me like a patch on top of C. IMO it's a pity that Obj-C is not used more widely, seems to be used only in OS X while the rest of the world keeps coding in C++ and that abomination called Java. I never understood what's so hot about Java, well yes, compile once, debug anywhere, yeah right. Looks like an idiot proof C++ dialect to me, but that's just my opinion, which is probably heavily biased, since when I learned C I had been progamming in mc68k assembly for 5 years, so my brain tends to build code structures in that way, which is compatible with C, but not with java/c++. Back in the C++ vs C subject, there's also this faked Stroustrup interview that appeared some years ago. I've wondered many times if it wasn't real after all. I mean, a lot of things said there make sense ;-) Cheers, --=20 Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk FreeBSD - The power to serve! --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8hdZmnLctrNyFFPERAkrAAJ0XOK47yFOV38C18eHhAnwDM6aB7wCgyXRe mqHY+dc2NyDixzKg8y/1Fjc= =DAz2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message