From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 22:38:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA87816A4E1 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from puffy.asicommunications.com (puffy.asicommunications.com [216.9.200.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C6643D60 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:38:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from jeeves.stilyagin.local (63-230-205-170.phnx.qwest.net [63.230.205.170]) by puffy.asicommunications.com (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k6SMcNxo005821 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:38:24 -0700 (MST) Received: (from dwc@localhost) by jeeves.stilyagin.local (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k6SMcDpY022273; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:38:13 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:38:13 -0700 From: Darrin Chandler To: User Freebsd Message-ID: <20060728223813.GA31151@jeeves.stilyagin.local> References: <20060726164622.Q17979@ganymede.hub.org> <20060726201933.GH5284@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <20060726185018.BB70.GERARD@seibercom.net> <20060726231555.GB19000@gothmog.pc> <84b68b3d0607271127k175100d9sa3285fadc53e5369@mail.gmail.com> <20060728161300.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060728161300.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: Amitabh Kant , Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:38:24 -0000 On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 04:16:55PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: > > And my point is that those not supporting FreeBSD already don't care, > since as far as they are concerned, their is no market for them to be > losing .... not buying their products isn't telling them anything they > didn't already believe ... Actually, this is a very valid point. A good approach would be to write to the vendor and tell them than you had considered their product and it looks good based on purely technical mertis, but you had to go with a competitors products due to availability of technical documentation. Frankly, the lost sales from FreeBSD will get lost in the noise for a company like Adaptec. However, a few dozen or a few hundred letters like above would carry a fair amount of weight. Leave out any attitude or flames. Just tell them their competitor made money instead of them. AMD has played pretty nice with specs, along with price and other things to be comptetitive. It's worked well for them. Has Intel changed because of this? You bet. In addition to lowering prices, they've begun to open specs. Yes! That's a win for everyone, even Intel, and Intel is beginning to suspect... Now, can we get Adaptec or Broadcom to follow suite? Maybe. Some companies are slow learners. Counting FreeBSD installs and telling them how many there are won't do nearly as much as 1 out of 1000 FreeBSD users writing them a letter telling them you bought from their competitors because of their policies. Bonus points if the competitor has been nipping at their heels lately. ;) -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group dwchandler@stilyagin.com | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ |