From nobody Tue Jul 18 23:28:17 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4R5FWN32w8z4mp7c for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 23:28:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (udns.ultimatedns.net [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4R5FWM5zkPz3Lxp; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 23:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of portmaster@bsdforge.com has no SPF policy when checking 24.113.41.81) smtp.mailfrom=portmaster@bsdforge.com Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 36INSIPx090165; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:28:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:28:17 -0700 From: Chris To: =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= Cc: Graham Perrin , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bugzilla, bureaucracy and obstacles In-Reply-To: References: <6D24E23B-1F79-47E9-B533-361188502BEA@lassitu.de> <76ad55a3-46c2-146e-6005-b300dc911e1c@freebsd.org> <05a2883a-c7ee-add7-9fd3-2b3d7c60876a@freebsd.org> User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: <01da352d98f0a42dfbad677e361e6b45@bsdforge.com> X-Sender: portmaster@bsdforge.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4R5FWM5zkPz3Lxp X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.10 / 15.00]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=multimap; Matched map: local_wl_ip On 2023-07-18 00:05, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: > On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 9:02 AM Graham Perrin > wrote: > >> On 18/07/2023 07:29, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: >> > … Would you say that requesting maintainers-feedback when reporting an >> > issue with a port is common sense? … >> >> Yes. >> >> Common sense, and automated sense, because in the vast majority of cases >> (i.e. commonplace), the request is automated. Tho I'm not the one whom you asked. I can say as a long-time Maintainer; that the solicitation for feedback is automated in the sense that Bugzilla determines whom the Maintainer is and CC's them. >> > > I don't follow. What do you mean exactly by "the request is automated"? > > >> >> Worth mentioning: I sometimes make mistakes when attempting to use the >> Bugzilla GUI for such things, despite the on-screen hints that are >> intended to avoid mistakes. >> >>