From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jun 22 04:11:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12551 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 04:11:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (daemon@smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12546; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 04:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bkogawa@primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13660; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 04:11:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip196.sjc.primenet.com(206.165.96.196), claiming to be "foo.primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd013623; Mon Jun 22 04:11:28 1998 Received: (from bkogawa@localhost) by foo.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) id DAA02653; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806221040.DAA02653@foo.primenet.com> To: tjohnson@verio.net Subject: Re: TYAN 1668 anyone ?? Newsgroups: localhost.freebsd.hackers References: From: "Bryan K. Ogawa" Cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD hackers , "'Chuck Robey'" X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In localhost.freebsd.hackers you write: >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. >------ =_NextPart_000_01BD9B90.E8266C30 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >I got a few lockups when I had dram refresh queue and I think the other >option is fast dram leadoff turned on in chipset options of my = >bios.(awd >5.01) The bios defaults turns them on I think. Turning them off fixed >my lockup problems. They would happen to me when I had heavy disk >access and I moved the mouse and noticed the pc locked up. >I have a Tyan 1668 For the record, I just had this exact same problem while trying to diagnose a hang on my 430HX SuperMicro board. The symptoms happened with a 4M Trident card, but are not so bad with my Matrox Millenium -- essentially any mouse motion (PS/2 or Serial mouse) will cause a hang given enough time. One thing I've noticed is that the power on the MB seems dodgy -- I have a lot of SCSI devices and I am getting rather nasty hangs during boot with 5 SCSI devices. I was able to get rid of the hangs by disabling the internal cache on the chips -- obviously not a solution, but perhaps a clue? This also seems to be related to a hang that I get with Netscape periodically with both the Matrox and the Trident card -- the results are the same (everything dies, not even pings of the machine work). For the record, the board in question is a SuperMicro P55T2S -- a Pentium board with 430HX chipset. My other 430TX board with a K6 doesn't have the problem, btw. >-----Original Message----- >From: Chuck Robey [mailto:chuckr@glue.umd.edu] >Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 7:56 AM >To: S=F8ren Schmidt >Cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG; FreeBSD hackers >Subject: Re: TYAN 1668 anyone ?? >On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, S=F8ren Schmidt wrote: >>=20 >> I have this most odd problem with at least 3 of these boards >> (TYAN 1668 dual P6). >>=20 >> The problem is that those boards can lock up totally given a set >> of specific events: >>=20 >> Run in a high res graphics mode, that uses linear addressing. >> Use the mouse together with disk activity. >>=20 >> This can be done in either X, win95 or winNT with the same sad >> result, a total lockup of the system. >>=20 >> If I use the mouse in a textmode, or in a graphics mode that >> uses banking, the problem doesn't appear. >>=20 >> We have tried anything here, we have the problem in 3 machines >> all of them have had their motherboards changed several times, >> we have tried different videocards, mouses, tried SCSI vs IDE, >> you name it, everytime with the same result. >>=20 >> They can all "make world" for days in an xterm, given that you >> dont touch the mouse, if you do move the mouse and hit a bottom >> that will hang the machin solid in 80% of the cases. >>=20 >> I have a TYAN 1662 board which is allmost the same just AT instead >> of ATX, and it doesn't show this behavior, even with the same >> parts put into the machine.... >>=20 >> Any ideas, I'm totally at a loss here.... >I have a 1662 with 2 PPro 166/512's here, running with a Cirrus 5436 >card, doing 1024X1280. 64 megs memory, and just as stable as a rock. >Done many hundreds of buildworlds, only once have I ever had a panic. >Using Option "linear" in my XF86Config file. >Toss a test at me if you want. I'm not using softupdates or CAM, tho, >and I only use a mouse in X. I often do the buildworlds while I'm >screwing around with something else, even netscape. I have 4 G of = >disk, >with 192M of swap. >>=20 >> >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= >-=3D-=3D- >> S=F8ren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD >Core Team >> Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? >> .. >>=20 >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message >>=20 >>=20 >----------------------------+-------------------------------------------= >---- >Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or >data=20 >chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and >Unix. >213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | >Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic >(FreeBSD-current) >(301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). >----------------------------+-------------------------------------------= >---- >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message >------ =_NextPart_000_01BD9B90.E8266C30 >Content-Type: application/octet-stream; > name="Tony Johnson.vcf" >Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="Tony Johnson.vcf" >BEGIN:VCARD >VERSION:2.1 >N:Johnson;Greg >FN:Tony Johnson >EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tjohnson@gulfsouth.verio.net >REV:19980326T195655Z >END:VCARD >------ =_NextPart_000_01BD9B90.E8266C30-- >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- bryan k ogawa http://www.primenet.com/~bkogawa/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message