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Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> [040401 14:05] wrote:
> 
>>On Thursday 01 April 2004 04:48 pm, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>>
>>>alfred      2004/04/01 13:48:31 PST
>>>
>>>  FreeBSD src repository
>>>
>>>  Modified files:
>>>    sys/i386/conf        GENERIC.hints
>>>  Log:
>>>  Fix booting with ps2 keyboards.
>>
>>Please revert since you did not get adequate review or discussion for this 
>>change.
> 
> 
> Actually we discussed this a long time ago.
> 
> Previously the broken argument was: 
> 
>  "hot swapping ps2 keyboards is bad, so let's screw data center people."
> 
> After a long drawn out flame fest enough people stood by my position that
> we reverted it.
> 
> Now it's "syscons is broken" (or "please cry for my USB keyboard")
> so we should go back to screwing data center users.
> 
> I really don't buy it.
> 
> 
>>Instantly MFC'ing drive by commits is also not very nice.
> 
> 
> I was just reverting the code to the decided on acceptable behavior.
> If you want USB to work then fix syscons, do not break data center
> users.
> 
> I'm also rather upset that the atkbd man page does not adequate
> describe how to toggle this option without a kernel recompile.
> 
> It's been three years and syscons still hasn't been fixed so that
> data center users aren't screwed.  This is a matter of fixing syscons
> not crippling ps2, so basically go fix syscons don't muck with
> atkbd. :)
> 
> thank you,

Sorry, this drive-by isn't acceptable right before the 4.10 release
cycle.  The old behaviour might be broken for data center people, but
it is well understood brokeness.  Please revert the RELENG_4 change,
and we'll discuss the next step.

Scott