From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 5 0: 6:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E009F37B401 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 00:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B08843E65 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 00:06:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9576UmC091584 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:06:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g9576Uol091583; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:06:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:06:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200210050706.g9576Uol091583@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: grub boot loader or freebsd boot loader In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.6-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > I would like to see people support and develop the FreeBSD boot loader > or some other loader with a decent license. > > The combination of the GPL'd GRUB (or GAG) boot loader and the kernel is > too likely to be considerd by some judge or jury as a derivative of both > parts which is sufficiently unworthy of any of the GPL's nebulous excape > clauses to avoid partial or even total infection. (Especially when a > dangerously-dedicated-disk install is considered.) Why would you want to install a bootmanager on a dangerously- dedicated disk? Apart from that, dangerously-dedicated has been deprecated, AFAIK. The kernel can certainly not be considered a derivative of any bootloader; they don't have anything in common, neither do they share any code. Remember that you can boot FreeBSD from the NT boot loader, for example, which isn't even open source and certainly has a more restrictive license than GRUB. (Microsoft certainly didn't have supporting Linux or BSD in mind when they created their boot loader, while FreeBSD is even mentioned in the GRUB documentation, IIRC). I'd be much more concerned about other GPL'ed parts of the base system. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message