From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 21:14:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C553416A419 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandano@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7999813C481 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandano@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i23so919529wra for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:14:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=p19K7h9Xmjlma/ijQc5XPqEzjeYeHp+aeUfmgNW1Bbh5EzawIWBXhMzH/BO8CER5UCk/OANMW9rSkqt6ye/O87bOcadC3k6mE9ambFiHJ/I12joA/bu5IjajHcfIQuobjWcyeoHQdxlkq4dCY42oRDvmiSZkoOElqKXU/yH8amY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=KIbdY4h+tZkxVpAjWG9Dr+cqX5xOHuZdB4Uub/LLV5zmPiJSYRVX/5ULS5S8ARjYMDVaTLbgZ+ahD5Q6L6mcex/4ZhRbvUbHc6b18ozVVKbTrsi14RMPm/BPVTFy8A0GLq9C6sS+wysPgUzgqrncLTuaLWol1j3o/QZKo6si1m0= Received: by 10.142.240.9 with SMTP id n9mr66087wfh.1184705325286; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.99.7 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:48:45 +0200 From: "Rafael Ruiz" To: alpha-port@netbsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org, alpha@openbsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: X on NetBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:14:37 -0000 Hi All! I would like to know why *BSD has problems with X (Xorg or XFree) on Alpha Platform. I like NetBSD, FreeBSD, but i have a lot of problem for use X on these. X runs very well on Linux/Alpha but i would like to work with BSD and to make a workstation with X. Why *BSD don't let X work on Alpha? This in not problem of X. In old versions of FreeBSD like 4.5 and so, XFree ran good. I think that BSD/alpha is better that Linux/Alpha .... but do we must to limit at console/text mode only? Due to i can not to use X on FreeBSD, nor NetBSD, I check OpenBSD, but it has the same problem. In NetBSD we can to build xsrc (XDecNet, XFree86,...), but only for 21164 processors, with 21264 it seem not work. We can to use caseydoodley Xfree86 modifications too(thanks mel), but with some limitations. We only have two options: 1.- For Workstations with graphical environment -> Linux 2.- For Servers (Text mode) -> BSD Is this our only choice? It's a pity that BSD has this problem with X, it is the best free Operating System for Alpha. Does think NetBSD or OpenBSD developers to open the door for X in the future? Opinions? Solutions? Thanks for your comments. Rafa