From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 29 01:15:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A02016A4E0 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5493A43D46 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:15:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so30683uge for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:15:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Nr78QURqFqxu+0oXZFeISvDUWscAEyrL1rrcALM9gkAsbF4T8Y/NEGshaExGHoujeYsmUoyl1lRsDE2x/LpEHEwsJjoW8uAqABW6jMkFkhYt9xGA/8mHt18wAEQT71OGN2TXFIXOdrSGPiqa1VeO1jR61UYGCmq9Kn5DewApW3o= Received: by 10.78.127.2 with SMTP id z2mr15528huc; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:15:49 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Darrin Chandler" In-Reply-To: <20060728223813.GA31151@jeeves.stilyagin.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060726164622.Q17979@ganymede.hub.org> <20060726201933.GH5284@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <20060726185018.BB70.GERARD@seibercom.net> <20060726231555.GB19000@gothmog.pc> <84b68b3d0607271127k175100d9sa3285fadc53e5369@mail.gmail.com> <20060728161300.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060728223813.GA31151@jeeves.stilyagin.local> Cc: Amitabh Kant , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:15:52 -0000 On 7/28/06, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 04:16:55PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: > > > > And my point is that those not supporting FreeBSD already don't care, > > since as far as they are concerned, their is no market for them to be > > losing .... not buying their products isn't telling them anything they > > didn't already believe ... > > Actually, this is a very valid point. A good approach would be to write > to the vendor and tell them than you had considered their product and it > looks good based on purely technical mertis, but you had to go with a > competitors products due to availability of technical documentation. > > Frankly, the lost sales from FreeBSD will get lost in the noise for a > company like Adaptec. However, a few dozen or a few hundred letters like > above would carry a fair amount of weight. Leave out any attitude or > flames. Just tell them their competitor made money instead of them. > > AMD has played pretty nice with specs, along with price and other things > to be comptetitive. It's worked well for them. Has Intel changed because > of this? You bet. In addition to lowering prices, they've begun to open > specs. Yes! That's a win for everyone, even Intel, and Intel is > beginning to suspect... > > Now, can we get Adaptec or Broadcom to follow suite? Maybe. Some > companies are slow learners. Counting FreeBSD installs and telling them > how many there are won't do nearly as much as 1 out of 1000 FreeBSD > users writing them a letter telling them you bought from their > competitors because of their policies. Bonus points if the competitor > has been nipping at their heels lately. ;) > I agree. but who do you send it to? If you send it to the wrong person (a worker bee for example) it may end up in the trash. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/