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Date:      Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:40:09 -0500
From:      Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
To:        araujo@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        bapt@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, Frederic Culot <culot@freebsd.org>, Pietro Cerutti <gahr@freebsd.org>, cvs-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/games/8kingdoms Makefile ports/misc/airoflash Makefile ports/graphics/autopano-sift Makefile ports/x11/avant-window-navigator-xfce4 Makefile ports/lang/boo Makefile ports/x11/cl-clx-sbcl Makefile ports/palm/coldsync ...
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 09:32:47AM -0300, Marcelo Araujo wrote:
> There is nothing more frustrating than try to install a port and it
> doesn't fetch or doesn't build.

That's been my main point of worry all along (more personally than as
portmgr), and why I think the deprecation campaigns do more good than
harm.  Obviously some folks do not agree :-/  We'll have to agree to
disagree on that point.

I'll also note that not every port that gets deprecated actually gets
removed.  In English we have this saying "the carrot and the stick".
I'd certainly rather use the carrot than the stick, but sometimes the
stick (setting DEPRECATED) is effective.

Finally, I agree that FreeBSD can't "guarantee" any given ports will
work, but I think we owe the users the effort to make sure if a port
is included, it's at least not completely useless.

mcl



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