From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 14 15:20:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F3A37B42A; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31835; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:20:22 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12369; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:20:21 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200201142320.KAA12369@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: John Baldwin Cc: Gregory Bond , stable@FreeBSD.org, "Richard S. Conto" Subject: Re: New cdboot ISO available In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:56:02 -0800. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:20:21 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yes, but then who do you target the ISO at? I'm trying to judge how widely > used the older machines are and if we should still use boot.flp on the ISO's > to > accomodate them. It depends on the nature and ubiquity of the "newer devices" that get dropped off kern.flp. If we get to the stage where even a small fraction of new systems aren't supported by kern.flp installs (because they come with RAID cards etc that are not on kern.flp) then it will be time to change. It's much easier for middling-old systems to boot using kern.flp than it is for someone (to pick a hypothetical example) with only a RAID controller not supported by kern.flp to hand-craft a floppy boot image, or do a double install (once to supported IDE drive, once to unsupported-by-kern.flp RAID device). Unless we want to get into the game of having a mix-n-match selection of kern.flp images! (This might be doable if we have 2 kern.flp images - one for "older systems" from 386-P2, one for "newer systems" from P3/Duron on, to pick a somewhat arbitary convention that should at least be fairly easy to explain to newbies.) My gut feel (admittedly a poor guide!) is that, while the majority of FreeBSD _systems_ might be on older (pre-cdboot) hardware, these will likely be upgraded in place (from source, or net packages). The majority of new _installs_ (i.e. use of the boot CD) will be on newer hardware. (Actually, there is probably a fair number of current or potential FreeBSD systems from the 486/P5 era that don't support any form of CD booting, new or old, but they are irrelevent to the current discussion.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message