From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 24 00:53:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D4216A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (sbk-gw.sibnet.ru [217.70.96.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C27C43F93 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:53:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru) Received: from sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAO8qGoV065097; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:52:16 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru) Received: from localhost (stranger@localhost)hAO8pr4r065094; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:52:00 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: sbk-gw.sibnet.ru: stranger owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:51:53 +0600 (NOVT) From: "Maxim M. Kazachek" X-X-Sender: stranger@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru To: Bruce M Simpson In-Reply-To: <20031123042635.GB677@saboteur.dek.spc.org> Message-ID: <20031124144924.Y64932@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> References: <3FBE8D92.6080205@acm.org> <20031123012222.GB11523@dragon.nuxi.com> <20031123042635.GB677@saboteur.dek.spc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on sbk-gw.sibnet.ru cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Tim Kientzle Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:53:37 -0000 On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Bruce M Simpson wrote: >On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 02:42:58AM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: >> At 5:22 PM -0800 2003/11/22, David O'Brien wrote: >> >> > Please, NO. There wasn't an FTP client available for this type of >> > recovery pre-/rescue, there shouldn't be one now. >> >> Why? Why cut your nose off to spite your face? Even though this >> capability may not have existed before, why shouldn't we have it now? > >I think David has valid concerns here about feeping creaturism. fetch >has a whole load of library dependencies which go with it, making it >unsuitable for inclusion in /rescue in the base system. > >If you want access to fetch early on in this way, you could make a local >branch and maintain the change for your own site, or you could boot from >a FreeBSD live CD, or use sysinstall from the installation CD to install >a package. I don't see fetch as a requirement for diskless clients. > Not diskless clients, but ruined FreeBSD installation. IMHO /rescue is created for it. We shouldn't put fetch into /bin, but placing fetch into crunched executable may be helpful in case of system restore. Sincerely, Maxim M. Kazachek mailto:stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru mailto:stranger@fpm.ami.nstu.ru