From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Mar 31 20:45:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09722 for freebsd-ports-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:45:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09698 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:45:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bruce@zuhause.mn.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id WAA22112; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:45:17 -0600 (CST) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by zuhause.mn.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA07985; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:42:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:42:43 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199804010442.WAA07985@zuhause.mn.org> From: Bruce Albrecht To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: shimon@simon-shapiro.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: One more: emulators/xzx In-Reply-To: <6300.891386702@time.cdrom.com> References: <6300.891386702@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > b. If I used this language, you will threaten me with banning from the > > lists. > > No, actually not. If you read section 25.1.3 of the handbook more > closely, you'll see that it says "Personal attacks and profanity (in > the context of an argument) are not allowed", meaning that it's > perfectly permissible to say "that system you just purchased, sir, is > unfortunately a steaming pile of &$#@%^*!" while it is not permissible > to say "You, sir, are a steaming pile of &$#@%^*! for buying such a > system and I hate you." > > We're all (well, mostly :) adults here and we occasionally use adult > language - the charter is not attempting to regulate that. It's > merely attempting to regulate the language used in personal attacks. > Perhaps I could have better worded that as "Personal attacks and > profanity (in the context of such attacks) are not allowed" since that > is how it was meant. Maybe so, Jordan, but as someone who is regularly recognized as a spokesman for the FreeBSD core team, I consider it less than professional for you to use profanity when other phrases will do, e.g., "Your tree is seriously broken", when responding to messages in the mailing list. I hardly think that someone from Sun, or even the Evil Empire itself, would use profanity in response to an error report, even if the person had sent numerous bogus reports. I guess that in a volunteer organization, it's hard to get reprimanded by superiors, or fired. On a related subject, I'm also annoyed with the way some rugrats camp in the #FreeBSD IRC channel and spend most of their time talking about their sex lives, or lack thereof (if one excludes onanism). This, too, provides a poor image of FreeBSD to someone who is trying to learn more about FreeBSD. I think it takes a lot of postive PR to undo the damage created with casual profanity used here and on IRC, especially when we're trying to convince others that FreeBSD is a better alternative to commercial operating systems. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message