From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 17:22:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32E11065670 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8228FC0C for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl9 with SMTP id l9so1759792yen.13 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:22:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=N8Bd/wQdqGHzvqg1lWcMBWOVywn4Fla+Kt50pCN0c8A=; b=Ne9lDDD7cJOa4QVEv0jf9Zoex1QzmAootM1Rr+0qUiFb3R/VwkOyXoKsFS58FS2QST p6cbZbu/QKSz0yOfw4D6rpbulmq1kV87uM3XSQpcLK2OFm1c803IGgZsBdjeD6H3FKTb X3xDGFhObni6TxplwJmaeHTh2dpoCd8x4HzG1EElQ8iSBcMtz0LmKrhT6tGOLxXNb/Xr xPrpWCOaA4Rft4Rc8Y8LWhcLgElnHjJCtLis5KZK6P8mNgD8p4d6eibN51BxGfVpzJ8O 3rCLWXms5yGvZFlF0QIWJXp3fHfw7tV59YNXgV3n6zjibjG+tR1SjM620q7HPJQauQIC 19lA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.149.170 with SMTP id ub10mr717570igb.43.1335806525900; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.74.138 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:22:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F9EC5E9.6060604@gmail.com> References: <201204301136.q3UBa8fj083478@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4F9EC5E9.6060604@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:22:05 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Iwmwf-oVKuLY80f5WKbHh4dlC3c Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Edward M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnz9D3o5Q4ubAcjbpaClb6cq6UEtyu7UUknIlgLkb5b0XXcC2kOw+D7zvflhu/FYPyxWNQM Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:22:10 -0000 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Edward M wrote: > On 04/30/2012 08:38 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >> =A0just not very helpful or fun. This attitude will get > > > =A0 =A0He is helping,you need to =A0learn how UFS, jails, nullfs, journal= ing, disk > I/O =A0and other stuff work. > =A0 =A0I have been following this thread and i must admit I also need to = learn > more on those subjects.:-) > Oh, please! He's not helping anyone. He's just being an obnoxious prick that thinks that by pointing out a lot of technical blabber and some cheap philosophical pos=E9, he's going to gain some sort of place amongst his peers, and you are just trying to do the same by sucking-up, siding with him and seconding an simply unacceptable attitude in a community of real peers. If you truly know your stuff you don't have to go putting people down and patronizing them to show off. It is only when you go over the top, trying to prove something that your are actually just showing your insecurities and just plain ignorance. Why don't you google and read my posts over the years when I help other people in things they don't know, and tell me if it's remotely close, or if I patronize people. I might go tell someone to RTFM but I would never go and try to put someone down just to show off that I know a lot. Furthermore, this is a user's list, not a deeply technical one. I don't have to read the fsck source code to use FreeBSD or participate on this list. If you are indeed an expert you try to help other people, or at least give the other person the benefit of the doubt. If you have really followed the thread, all I have done is try to find some explanation for a strange behavior of the system under normal use. It hung, and some directories were moved, period. I have posted some ideas to share with other people expecting some insight and maybe similar experience from other users, which there probably are many, but many times afraid to speak up and avoid getting insulted. I don't take that crap from anyone and much less in a community that I have come to love and respect. And it's all about that: RESPECT and you can either learn it the easy way or the hard way, but I will tech respect one way or another. --=20 Alejandro Imass