From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 1 14:38:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18046 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:38:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18040 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:38:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16414; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:38:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr05.primenet.com(206.165.6.205) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd016395; Sun Nov 1 15:38:21 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA29226; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:38:19 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199811012238.PAA29226@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Internet Explorer and UNIX To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:38:19 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, netmonger@genesis.ispace.com, wes@softweyr.com, scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk, licia@o-o.org, jcwells@u.washington.edu, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19981102080413.G19187@freebie.lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Nov 2, 98 08:04:13 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >> I don't think that's being creative. We don't know how much Netscape > >> code is in IE, but Microsoft has abused Java code in there in > >> violation of the licensing restrictions. In my book, that's piracy. > > > > By all means, let's artificially limit the number of applications > > that appear to run on FreeBSD by imposing political agendas > > unrelated to the agenda of FreeBSD advocacy, and unrelated to > > as yet unresolve court decisions. > > 1. This stuff doesn't run on FreeBSD. Solaris Binaries now run on FreeBSD, if you install the execution class loader and the Solaris shared libraries (to cover the gratuitous incompatability of FreeBSD with the IABI). I haven't personally tried to run IE, but there's little reason to believe that it wouldn't work. > 2. I don't care too much about court decisions. The evidence I've > seen leaves no doubt that Microsoft is in deliberate breach of > contract with Sun over the Java content. In my book, that's > piracy. Actually, that's "breach of contract" if you can prove it, and "libel" if you can't. It's not up to us to enforce Microsoft to comply with rules of law or even of some fuzzy definition of sportsmanlike conduct. > > Not. > > Not for the first time, you're missing the point. You're the one missing the point. I don't give a damn if Microsoft is Evil with a capital 'E', or if Bill Gates is The One True AntiChrist, with the 6's tatooed under his hairline to prove it. It's irrelevent and orthogonal to better advocacy of FreeBSD. Not that I think that Microsoft would put a FreeBSD daemon on the artwork for IE for Solaris in any case... But if they *did*, it'd be tantamount to diplomatic recognition of FreeBSD by the equivalent of a country on the UN Security council. And that's good for advocacy of FreeBSD. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message