From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Mar 26 5:39:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in (theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.71.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA90537B7C5 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 05:39:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in) Received: (qmail 1879 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2000 13:39:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO theory8.physics.iisc.ernet.in) (144.16.71.128) by theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in with SMTP; 26 Mar 2000 13:39:03 -0000 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 19:09:03 +0530 (IST) From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Craig Harding Cc: "G. Adam Stanislav" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Oh no. The Guns Debate (was Re: On "intelligent people" and "dangers to BSD") In-Reply-To: <38DDD723.C01AD233@outpost.co.nz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This seems to be more a religious debate than anything. So to stick my oar in, by analogy with another religion: communism. Here in some parts of India there are still people who believe capitalism is evil and exploitative and therefore communism is the only true way. The only argument I can make is to look at the examples: America v/s Russia, Western Europe v/s Eastern Europe, West v/s East Germany, North v/s South Korea, and see which did better (and today many people will agree that India's leftist leanings held it up for decades)... but it's impossible to *prove* that communism doesn't work. So I don't argue after a while. It's the same thing here. Empirically, there's only one country that's really famous for frequent school shootings and stuff like that, and that's the country with the most liberal gun-control laws. But that doesn't prove anything: it's impossible to prove anything, so the debate will carry on endlessly. Even if America changes its laws, and crime drops after that, the gun advocates will either attribute it to something else, or deny that things have improved at all. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message