From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 29 16:01:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6A1BB0 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spawk@acm.poly.edu) Received: from acm.poly.edu (acm.poly.edu [64.147.113.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0485823D5 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from acm.poly.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acm.poly.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840AC1F13AA for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 11:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38558 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2013 15:56:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.50.50.212?) (spawk@64.147.100.2) by acm.poly.edu with CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Aug 2013 15:56:05 -0000 Message-ID: <521F6F4A.2080107@acm.poly.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 11:56:58 -0400 From: Boris Kochergin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130828 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC? References: <92E50FD0-1A1D-4CD2-AB73-11D1F189D12D@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <92E50FD0-1A1D-4CD2-AB73-11D1F189D12D@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD current , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:01:34 -0000 On 08/29/13 11:52, Warner Losh wrote: > On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > >> In reference to this FreeBSD forums post: >> >> http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=231135&postcount=4 >> >> Would it be a good time to remove those from GENERIC since the >> hardware they are for is becoming so seriously outdated? >> >> There's always an option to load those drivers as modules if needed. > No. It is not a good time to remove them. They aren't as out-dated as you might think, and there's literally dozens of other devices in GENERIC that have even less use today... > > Warner > Just thought I'd be a statistic and speak up to say that I am happily using the PCMCIA drivers on multiple 9.x/i386 machines, and plan to continue doing so through 10.x. -Boris