From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Feb 1 09:46:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19565 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19560 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:46:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul9.u.washington.edu (root@saul9.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.7]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA10300; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:46:42 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul9.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA03467; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:46:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:46:03 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: W Gerald Hicks cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lets Endorse KDE Was: some slashdot thread In-Reply-To: <19990201113344W.wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, W Gerald Hicks wrote: >I'd much rather see elements which attract professional technologists >to FreeBSD, people who can bring something in with them. Looking >around, it seems that FreeBSD is doing that pretty well although >improvements can always be made. I agree. FreeBSD is doing well. Not everyone is a hacker. It is a big world out there. Programmers are a small segment of society. Computer users are a much larger segment of society than programmers. Discounting them (me even) is a discredit to those of us who do what little we can. And oh yeah, those suits people always bitch about, they are not technologists either. They decide what to implement. If they never even _hear_ about FreeBSD they will never implement it _EVER_ regardless of its technical excellence. Users provide exposure for free. I am _not_ just a load on an already overstressed system. I am a member of this community. Again, making KDE a default will help new users. Thos of us who know how to swing our X configs to and fro don't need or necessarily like KDE. Don't judge this issue on the fact that KDE is not a 20 year development. Judge this issue on the help KDE will provide newbies. Put yourself in a non-cs degreed non-programmer non-unix users shoes and then look at the issue. Remember, they may have been WHiny windows users, but they came to see what FreeBSD has to offer. If you throw that opportunity away because you don't esteem that user for a lack of technical prowess, then you have thrown away free exposure. Can FreeBSD afford to just discount users? Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message