From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 20:49:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptialaska.net (mail.ptialaska.net [198.70.245.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782E237B51B; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:49:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ptialaska.net) Received: from vizion2000 (dialups-30.sitka.ptialaska.net [198.70.227.30]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA29504; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:49:41 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <008f01bfa9b2$08f65f20$1ee346c6@demon.co.uk> From: "Southwell" To: "Sean Jensen_Grey" , "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Colin Eric Johnson" , "C J Michaels" , "Mike Smith" , References: Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:47:46 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Disposition-Notification-To: "Southwell" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sean... I agree .. I have spent three days researching this one -- and I just cannot find anything which sustains the idea that patents are the obstacle.. I can see why some people do not want it to be true (no one on this list)... Besides I like a bus that is fast - good for video and you can still use when the computer is not working... QED david ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Jensen_Grey" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Colin Eric Johnson" ; "C J Michaels" ; "Southwell" ; "Mike Smith" ; Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:18 PM Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support > dudes, there aren't any PATENT problems that would effect software to my > knowledge. there is only a problem if you want to label your product FireWire > (pay apple a dollar per item shipped). Now witness the i.Link and other brand > names popping up around IEEE 1394. > > TI is happy to provide info on firewire. They make most of the chipsets shipped > in consumer computer applications. And haven't been seeing the sales they > wanted. > > Search > > http://www.patents.ibm.com/cgi-bin/patsearch > > for 1394, If you have HARDWARE in your hand, all the patent issues have been > care of allready by the manufacturer. > > now witness patents like (dont get alarmed) > > http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?&pn10=US05938752 > > which are merely done to prevent someone like rtime from patenting air. I doubt > they will ever enforce it. If you look i think they even patented html. gotta > cover your assets. > > Develop first, ask questions later. Besides expressing ideas in code is all > protected under the freedom of speech. No one would ever take that away. B^) > > http://www.law.emory.edu/FEDERAL/usconst/amend.html#art-1 > > > > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: > > > > > I just did a little looking and there does seem to be a linux IEEE 1394 > > > project in the works. Take a look at: > > > > > > http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ (the newer site) > > > http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at/ieee1394/ (the older site) > > > > > > They don't seem to have any mention of any patent problems. > > > > Linux people often operate in blissful ignorance of annoying things like > > patents..be warned :) > > > > Kris > > > > ---- > > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message