From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 27 19:54:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16139 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:54:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16134 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:54:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT root)@rac2.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.142]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id WAA07539; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:53:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT sendmail)@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id WAA00999; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id WAA00993; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:53:01 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac2.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:53:01 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Greg Lehey , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Thanks, Core Team In-Reply-To: <70985.914810897@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In message <19981228122531.C12346@freebie.lemis.com>, Greg Lehey writes: > >On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 17:45:37 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >>> 1. LKMs are gone. > >>> 2. This was decided by the core team. > >>> 3. Nobody else was informed. > >> > >> Actually, while some of the recent events came as much as a surprise > >> to core as anyone else, the transition from LKMs to KLD modules is not > >> and should not come as a surprise to anyone. We've been talking about > >> it for ages now in -current > > > >Sure, but that's not what I'm talking about. I've been gathering a > >lot of information about KLDs, and I've been meaning to move some > >time. But until this morning there was nothing to indicate that LKMs > >were going away in a hurry. It's interesting that recent events > >surprised you too, though. > > Notice my friends (and foes) that we have less than 3 weeks to get > the tree into a shape which we're going to be STUCK with for at least > a year in the form of the monster which drains our energies: "-STABLE" > > We don't want to carry all this old stuff around for another year... > > That is why something had to happen, and it had to happen NOW, not > after several weeks of fruitless flamefests in the mailing lists! > This is the _first_ good reason that I've seen for the "suddeness" of the change from LKMs to KLDs. I am personally happy as long as LKMs (such as Arla's afs client, or OSS/FreeBSD) can be loaded and used. Kenneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message