From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 27 10:39:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from post-11.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9558737B499 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.194.207] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-11.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16g8yu-000ONU-00 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:39:12 +0000 Received: from angel.raggedclown.net (angel.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.7]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [buffy]) with ESMTP id D177413040 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:39:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by angel.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [angel], from userid 1005) id B026B225C1; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:39:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:39:08 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new FreeBSD mailing list Message-ID: <20020227183908.GD2129@raggedclown.net> References: <3C7AFCED.ADDE60EE@centtech.com> <20020226093250.A1369@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <3C7BEF25.C1EEB8AD@centtech.com> <20020226204420.GA2629@raggedclown.net> <3C7BF7A4.E571BEFA@centtech.com> <20020226145226.X52727@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020226145226.X52727@blossom.cjclark.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 02:52:26PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 03:01:24PM -0600, Eric Anderson wrote: > > Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > > > > > I am not sure how much traffic such a list would generate. > > > > > > In terms of new lists, I suggested long ago, that the number of > > > questions on filtering/firewalls/nat and all points east generated on -questions > > > could easily justify it's own mailing list. Since this is clearly > > > one of the most confusing, most ill-understood, and frankly > > > insufficiently documented areas of FreeBSD .. and yet one of it's most > > > important. I have twice suggested to Crist Clark he write a book on it.. > > > I think he told me he was once approached to do so. But sadly no such > > > book exists. There are lots of bits of paper flying around the net with > > > recipes, suggestions, partial explanations etc. But there is no-where > > > a coherent in-depth discussion of it all. > > > > > > > I must be missing your point, since there IS a -security list, which contains > > those items. > > And there are -ipfw and -net for the things Cliff brought up. Ah, but reading the manifesto for those 2 lists show them as discussions of implementation, not of use. Security list also seems to be stated as being for discussions on encryption and generally on damage limitation, not on discussion of preventing in-breakers. So, there is not a list with the express manifesto of *using* firewalls. I changed my mind about the possible need for a performance list btw. May be it is a good idea. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message