From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 09:05:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F27B1D59; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 09:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x233.google.com (mail-la0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67AAE8C6; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 09:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by labgq15 with SMTP id gq15so2342886lab.13; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 01:05:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Ax5DA/MvEu0pwjSEQkdyQb3ieERu6Ep4B0o1OJEYeBQ=; b=kewiYfQFTp/nsmy/iXJFRgsJRsA3z4lUWraXyRq8fPYiT1hAAv3B1OZMhvmvrogQSR 4zqS8RLdJwXkeA2wzas6ojHD1NhtWdMG9ThnxDx0zumUryL1lEpRvXbXzmZg23usoXxe 8h9HO4dL7DXqvXJ9st4B6mzaRADwQeZXm+cEooUub1ulCnpR81PDfCbNDzyyJnfeV1x+ c2e7tmJqtOh1CNvrOVTtsVZrwL+YtgR7N2wiquU/iut+oj4pw4EX6BgmdkryWa8Mf5gT v3YuGCnDO1/hxr5Zw7QuM9EOxEMk03gaKulU9NdDY1ZpFq4G38ZO5gZ+ReRdIOvPdFE/ my4g== X-Received: by 10.112.198.66 with SMTP id ja2mr11637790lbc.39.1425632727240; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 01:05:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.7] (broadband-5-228-253-252.nationalcablenetworks.ru. [5.228.253.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k3sm1692690lah.40.2015.03.06.01.05.25 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Mar 2015 01:05:25 -0800 (PST) Sender: Dmitry Sivachenko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r279603 - in head: bin/rcp usr.bin/rlogin usr.bin/rsh From: Dmitry Sivachenko In-Reply-To: <54F8ACDF.70305@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 12:05:23 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1735F6FC-02CD-48FC-BE88-47CB68748988@FreeBSD.org> References: <201503042201.t24M1jDG009278@svn.freebsd.org> <20150305114828.GK17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305122103.GA90978@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305122359.GM17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305123016.GO48476@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305123053.GN17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305123349.GP48476@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305123548.GO17947@FreeBSD.org> <48981079-C9B7-411D-87A3-5A8F04924314@FreeBSD.org> <54F8ACDF.70305@freebsd.org> To: Alfred Perlstein X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, David Chisnall , Gleb Smirnoff , Slawa Olhovchenkov , svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 09:05:30 -0000 > On 5 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=82=D0=B0 2015 =D0=B3., at 22:22, Alfred = Perlstein wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 3/5/15 6:09 AM, David Chisnall wrote: >> On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:04, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote: >>=20 >>> It is so nice to have most useful stuff out of the box. >> The question is whether a tool for logging into remote machines = without encryption is 'the most useful stuff'. The tool is also = [ab]used for network testing, but we already provide a better tool for = that in the form of nc(1). >>=20 >> David >>=20 >>=20 > Agree. >=20 > Moving it out of base +1000. >=20 > It's time we made FreeBSD into an actual distro which is what is = happening anyhow. >=20 > This is a great time! This would become a new fool's day, really. Don't act like a monkey copying other's bad decisions. Having rich base system always were one of FreeBSD's strength, please = don't break it.