From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 2 19:16:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42021065690 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solarux@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s6.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4C78FC1C for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solarux@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY113-W15 ([65.54.168.115]) by bay0-omc1-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:16:04 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [67.55.12.228] From: Rick N To: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:16:04 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <200905281030.n4SAUXdA046386@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200905280847.12966.kirk@strauser.com> <200905280904.44025.kirk@strauser.com> <20090528183801.82b36bbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EDE2@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EDE6@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <4A1EF742.7030606@otenet.gr> <4A2041ED.4010003@telenix.org> <4A218A98.4@telenix.org> <20090531201553.3aac4b82@it.buh.tecnik93.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2009 19:16:04.0792 (UTC) FILETIME=[93148B80:01C9E3B6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: What is this forum for? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:16:05 -0000 It kind of reminds me of George Carlin - "Its Bad For Ya" (on any youyube= ) =20 :) =20 > Date: Sun=2C 31 May 2009 20:44:46 +0200 > From: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl > To: itetcu@FreeBSD.org > CC: sonicy@otenet.gr=3B Ggatten@waddell.com=3B chuckr@telenix.org=3B free= bsd-chat@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: What is this forum for? >=20 > >> > >> Where are this rules defined? > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/et= iquette.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ >=20 > first - good that's proper definition of hacker explained. >=20 > --- > FreeBSD-questions is a mailing list maintained by the FreeBSD project to= =20 > help people who have questions about the normal use of FreeBSD. > --- >=20 > while i still don't agree that many of things done is "normal use of=20 > freebsd" but that's my point of view. >=20 > So: >=20 > - it's fine here to ask about mysql5 or mysql6 as it is normal view of=20 > FreeBSD. > - it's not fine here to ask about sponsoring as it's not normal (and any)= =20 > use of FreeBSD. > - it's fine both to ask here about how to switch from windows=2C and=20 > presenting my point of view about this idea. >=20 > I think we finally agree=2C So i will subscribe to FreeBSD-hackers=2C but= with=20 > some fear. i don't classify myself as a FreeBSD-hacker. I understand C an= d=20 > can code=2C but everytime i like to do even smallest modification in kern= el=20 > it's quite time consuming=2C as it's really very complex amount of code. >=20 > > > >> best with moderation BUT EVEN WITHOUT=2C but with clearly defined rule= s > >> on webpage it could be efficient. > > > > Let's make a test case: please compare your emails with the rules and > > suggestions in above two articles. >=20 > Already did. And until we started to argue about moderation=2C it's=20 > mostly compliant. Then - it was not. For mostly two reasons. >=20 > First - because i was attacked when presenting my opinion=2C just because= it=20 > was not "mainstream" (but not aggressive). > Second - after it continued i wanted You to start moderation. >=20 > > > > We spend a few hours per day *working* on improving FreeBSD=2C doing al= so > > moderating is just to much. >=20 > First - thank you very much for this. I'm a happy user of YOUR WORK=2C an= d i=20 > wish you will keep this as good as now in future=2C as there is no other= =20 > unix that i don't consider crap today. >=20 > i think i could find more people if you decide to start moderation. > Whatever this people personal preferences are - won't matter as they woul= d=20 > be just executors of rules defined by YOU. >=20 > Just please contact me and tell beforehand=2C i will start asking people= =20 > privately=2C having timezones in mind. >=20 > So you will not need any extra work. >=20 > > Besides=2C we expect people to behave intelligently and politely. Life > > keeps contradicting us it seems :-[ >=20 > Agreed. >=20 > >>>> I already sent a mail to one developer but got no response. Maybe > >>>> he is just busy or absent=2C anyway what's the best address for this= . > > > > Please contact donations@ >=20 > OK. > >> OK so fuck off Boris=2C but we were talking some time ago about dumpin= g > >> potential sponsors =3B) > > > > Watch you language please. >=20 > Such language is used on special cases like this. So please replace this= =20 > words with other with the same meaning :) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _________________________________________________________________ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9666047=