From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 29 07:32:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E1916A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:32:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx01.stofanet.dk (mx01.stofanet.dk [212.10.10.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1202B43D55 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:32:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from d40a2021.rev.stofanet.dk ([212.10.32.33] helo=critter.freebsd.dk) by mx01.stofanet.dk (envelope-from ) with esmtp id 1DRPzT-0005Um-0F for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:32:48 +0200 Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3T7Wj6Y004938 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:32:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:19:07 +1000." <20050429071907.GA13459@mail.netspace.net.au> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:32:45 +0200 Message-ID: <4937.1114759965@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Subject: Re: incorrect statement on www page X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:32:51 -0000 One can't help the feeling that the projects resources could be used wiser than for a thread like this nor indeed if the instigator of this particular nitpicking has an agenda different from the advancement of FreeBSD. If we really should enforce the proposed level of "truth in advertising" then no operating system since Brink-Hansens RC4000 monitor could ever dare use the word "stable" about themselves since they have not been stringently proven to be free from deadlocks. Or how about the word "complete" ? We cannot possibly call FreeBSD "complete" when it doesn't support X.400 email exchange over X.75 transport on X.21 connection based service can we ? And there is no bolted on browser, something the US courts have ruled is a legitimate and necessary part of an operating system. And are we really "an operating system" if we look through the due diligence microscope ? Don't we run the risk of deceiving the unsuspecting user when we ship with /usr/games ? That is not really part of an operating system, that is part of an home entertainment system, isn't it ? I guess need to make the description somewhat like this: FreeBSD is the best[1] damn[2] UNIX[3] on the planet[4].[5][6][7]. [1] Your perception may be different if it is different from ours. [2] Void where prohibited. [3] Only we can't pay for the protection money to call ourselves that. [4] Nothing in this statement should be read or construed to mean that FreeBSD is not also superior outside this biosphere of the third planet from the star "Sol". [5] This statement contains forward and backward looking projections and we can't be bothered to state that this obviously means that it may not be true everywhere and forever. [6] The use of the word "planet" should not be seen as a position in fiercely heated argument about the flat vs. round Earth theories. [7] God[8] This is silly, isn't it ? [8] Pick one, anyone, or none, we don't care. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.