From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 20 06:15:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59DE106564A; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@freebsd.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C7C8FC0C; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:248b:b3cd:918d:d0d2]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 486E44AC1C; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:15:12 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:15:06 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <368496955.20110820101506@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Gary Palmer In-Reply-To: <20110819172252.GE88904@in-addr.com> References: <810527321.20110819123700@serebryakov.spb.ru> <201108191401.23083.pieter@degoeje.nl> <425884435.20110819175307@serebryakov.spb.ru> <20110819172252.GE88904@in-addr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:15:14 -0000 Hello, Gary. You wrote 19 =E0=E2=E3=F3=F1=F2=E0 2011 =E3., 21:22:52: >> >> > The niche for routers & traffic analysis is still ours. It would= be >> >> > nice to take e.g. pfSense and agree with some vendor (Netgear, >> >> > D-Link, etc) to put on sale hardware with FreeBSD inside. >> >>=20 >> >> What about 10G routing? Here are reports about full-bandwidth 10G r= outing >> >> on modern Intel NICs with Linux (and multi-core server), but I didn't= see >> >> any such data for FreeBSD, and somebody says, that Intel drivers and >> >> network stack is not so good parallel in FreeBSD. >> > With regards to high speed packet forwarding and routing, check out th= is work >> > by Luigi Rizzo: >> > http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/netmap/ >> Yep, I know this work, but it is rather special, not out-of-box (ok, >> maybe with some changed tunables) routing solution with routing >> tables, some firewall, etc. > I think we need to refocus on what would give the most benefit. At least > as far as I can see: > - port/package management: most users would benefit > - improved virtualisation support: a lot of users would benefit > - improved driver support: a lot of users would benefit > - KMS/GEM for better graphics card support: a lot of users would benefit > Can you honestly say the same about handling line rate packet forwarding > for multiple 10G cards? I agree with you. I've not say, that 10G routing is very important for many users. My comment about 10G was answer to statement, that "The niche for routers & traffic analysis is still ours.". I wanted to say, that it is so may be now, but not for long. --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov