From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 18:10:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4793916A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:10:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B08943D45 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:10:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB13569A21; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:10:53 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Pete French Message-Id: <20050425141053.76034863.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20050425134005.089d61c2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question About System Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:10:57 -0000 Pete French wrote: > > KVM requires you to physically _be_ at the colo. > > ?! Not the one I have for our colo - it's a little java app > where I choose a machine from a dropdown and get the video > in a window on the desktop. That's an out of the ordinary KVM. Would you mind passing on the manufacturer of that unit, I'd like to recommend that unit to a number of clients/associates of mine. The point is that a normal, run of the mill KVM doesn't have that capability. > > A serial console with an IP address and ssh capabilities (which is easy to > > set up, or fairly inexpensive to purchase) allows you access to the system > > as if you're sitting at it, over ssh. > > Ah, O.K. sounds fairly similar to what I have. Preseumably you can get at > BIOS settings and stuff like that too ? > > Still don't see the advantage to be honest, but thanks for the explanation. With a networkable KVM like you've got, there is no real advantage that I can see (unless you're doing kernel debugging, but that's a pretty advanced topic) But compare your KVM to a typical, non-networkable KVM and you get the same idea of what I was thinking when I compared a serial console to a KVM. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com