Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 12:35:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> Cc: guru@unixarea.de, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org> Subject: Re: Bouncing messages from freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <1949453712.4207.1691145345281@localhost> In-Reply-To: <ab6kd7u2hwimbbln4njbbbw3i43gpmtdx7ocis5mzvgybpfjfd@wnaqby3tlgyp> References: <1691031051-56818-mlmmj-5f44a9f8@FreeBSD.org> <ZMsw0Mj1%2BDyxHyeQ@pureos> <202308031500.373F0mYX024048@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <ab6kd7u2hwimbbln4njbbbw3i43gpmtdx7ocis5mzvgybpfjfd@wnaqby3tlgyp>
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------=_Part_4206_1013685588.1691145345167 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Van: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> Datum: donderdag, 3 augustus 2023 17:15 Aan: Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org> CC: guru@unixarea.de, freebsd-net@freebsd.org Onderwerp: Re: Bouncing messages from freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 04:00:48PM +0100, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > > Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote: > > > > > I do not understand this message, especially not the number "3719" > > > (which, btw, is not a list but a number). > > > > Ignore it. It is not for you. It was sent to the list generally. > > Some misconfiguration somewhere! > > > > No it was not sent to the whole list but only to the people whom mail server > have bounced an incoming mail. > > It is not a configuration, this can happen in 2 cases: > - a change in the on your email provider which start bouncing emails (hence the > fact we don't stop those emails) > - but most case it is due to the antispam on your provider side, when a spam > managed to passthrough our (freebsd) antispam infrastructure. > > To receive the email that has bounced: > > mail freebsd-net+get-3719@freebsd.org (not that there is a good chance that it > bounces again if this was not a configuration change that has been fixed. > > or read it via the archives: > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003718.html > > and raw version: > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003718.txt > > if that helps you analysing why it did bounce. > > be careful of the id which is 3719 - 1 (but that is another story). > > Best regards, > Bapt > > > > Looking at the Received headers in the .txt it looks as if somebody is reinjecting (as a loop) a mail into the mailinglist again. See a snippet of the headers below. Searching through the archive I found https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003705.txt which seems to be the original. So the message is probably bounced legitimately. Regards, Ronald. Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; arc=pass ("freebsd.org:s=dkim:i=1"); spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 41.168.131.25 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) smtp.mailfrom=bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org; dmarc=none Received: from [192.168.212.43] (helo=sec-nCPT-ag13) by delivery.e-purifier.com with smtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from <bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org>) id 1qR9pW-0001tM-2n for net@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 13:15:50 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag13.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 13:15:47 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 09:35:39 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 08:50:30 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 07:46:18 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 07:01:45 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 06:04:59 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 05:21:46 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:27:05 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 21:43:26 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 20:55:52 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 20:05:40 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 19:19:32 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 18:36:51 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 17:49:10 +0200 Received: from zalc1.e-purifier.com ([192.168.211.1]) by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Tue, 1 Aug 2023 17:06:51 +0200 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([96.47.72.81]) by zalc1.e-purifier.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from <freebsd-net+bounces-3706-ho=nanoteq.com@FreeBSD.org>) id 1qQqxU-0001De-1o for ho@nanoteq.com; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 17:06:51 +0200 ------=_Part_4206_1013685588.1691145345167 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html><head></head><body><br> <p><strong>Van:</strong> Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org><br> <strong>Datum:</strong> donderdag, 3 augustus 2023 17:15<br> <strong>Aan:</strong> Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org><br> <strong>CC:</strong> guru@unixarea.de, freebsd-net@freebsd.org<br> <strong>Onderwerp:</strong> Re: Bouncing messages from freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org</p> <blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-right: 0px"> <div class="MessageRFC822Viewer" id="P"> <div class="TextPlainViewer" id="P.P">On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 04:00:48PM +0100, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote:<br> > Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:<br> ><br> > > I do not understand this message, especially not the number "3719"<br> > > (which, btw, is not a list but a number).<br> ><br> > Ignore it. It is not for you. It was sent to the list generally.<br> > Some misconfiguration somewhere!<br> ><br> <br> No it was not sent to the whole list but only to the people whom mail server<br> have bounced an incoming mail.<br> <br> It is not a configuration, this can happen in 2 cases:<br> - a change in the on your email provider which start bouncing emails (hence the<br> fact we don't stop those emails)<br> - but most case it is due to the antispam on your provider side, when a spam<br> managed to passthrough our (freebsd) antispam infrastructure.<br> <br> To receive the email that has bounced:<br> <br> mail freebsd-net+get-3719@freebsd.org (not that there is a good chance that it<br> bounces again if this was not a configuration change that has been fixed.<br> <br> or read it via the archives:<br> <a href="https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003718.html">https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003718.html</a><br>; <br> and raw version:<br> <a href="https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003718.txt">https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003718.txt</a><br>; <br> if that helps you analysing why it did bounce.<br> <br> be careful of the id which is 3719 - 1 (but that is another story).<br> <br> Best regards,<br> Bapt<br> </div> <hr></div> </blockquote> <br> <br> Looking at the Received headers in the .txt it looks as if somebody is reinjecting (as a loop) a mail into the mailinglist again. See a snippet of the headers below.<br> Searching through the archive I found https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003705.txt which seems to be the original.<br> <br> So the message is probably bounced legitimately.<br> <br> Regards,<br> Ronald.<br> <br> <pre>Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; arc=pass ("freebsd.org:s=dkim:i=1"); spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 41.168.131.25 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) smtp.mailfrom=bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org; dmarc=none Received: from [192.168.212.43] (helo=sec-nCPT-ag13) by delivery.e-purifier.com with smtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from <bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org>) id 1qR9pW-0001tM-2n for net@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 13:15:50 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag13.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 13:15:47 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 09:35:39 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 08:50:30 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 07:46:18 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 07:01:45 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 06:04:59 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 05:21:46 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:27:05 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 21:43:26 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 20:55:52 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 20:05:40 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 19:19:32 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 18:36:51 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 17:49:10 +0200 Received: from zalc1.e-purifier.com ([192.168.211.1]) by sec-nCPT-ag14.neotel.e-purifier.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Tue, 1 Aug 2023 17:06:51 +0200 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([96.47.72.81]) by zalc1.e-purifier.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from <freebsd-net+bounces-3706-ho=nanoteq.com@FreeBSD.org>) id 1qQqxU-0001De-1o for ho@nanoteq.com; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 17:06:51 +0200</pre></body></html> ------=_Part_4206_1013685588.1691145345167--
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