From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 21 09:26:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DD416A40D for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A1513C4B0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (wnspsl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2L9QCj2051143; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:26:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l2L9QBgF051142; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:26:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:26:11 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200703210926.l2L9QBgF051142@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Eilko Bos , tom@samplonius.org In-Reply-To: <23548459.691174449417873.JavaMail.root@ly.sdf.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:26:17 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: interface re0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Eilko Bos , tom@samplonius.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:26:20 -0000 Tom Samplonius wrote: > But em cards (Intel Pro1000GT Desktop) cards are very cheap, and > do work. Why buy RealTek? RealTek has been outputting overly > simplistic hardware since the beginning. If there was a corner > that could be cut when building a NIC, a RealTek engineer thought > of it first. FWIW, I'm using re(4) cards in a few machines without any problems (probed as "RealTek 8169SB/8110SB"). They're working just fine. On the other hand, if you do a search for "em" on the mailing list archives, it looks like there are quite a lot of problems with those. Just my 2 cents ... YMMV. Best regards Oliver PS: I agree that the old rl(4) NICs, i.e. 8139, are really a piece of crap, but that's a completely different issue. Realtek also made quite an NE2k clone supported by ed(4) (called RealTek 8029) which is also quite decent and works perfectly fine (I've had one in my router for years). So, not all RealTek products are as bad a nightmare as the rl(4) 8139. ;-) -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "That's what I love about GUIs: They make simple tasks easier, and complex tasks impossible." -- John William Chambless