From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 15 15:11:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CEEFB8 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6724@bellsouth.net) Received: from nm4-vm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A2B12652 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.39.60.174] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2013 15:11:36 -0000 Received: from [67.195.14.110] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2013 15:11:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2013 15:11:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1376579496; bh=qGelQggZqUQT7mdyAlFd9Ip7+AKwkeGM3Q61QVRu5Tc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:CC:Subject; b=X/XulDrRZ9l60wZAKKaiK3tgjbn8pk4oghoYWuqRVLVkocPFwYmvnyMYRRkESsojaGFbeMneGjwj8/33emQqSz/up1BsBBqsGk12T5bW4htzsM28cxoER6llAz3Ud3EJPBMzYFoXlU8SiLnNm01vMGH8Q1mhYXYtDKmDEk90NRI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 693811.44466.bm@smtp107.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <693811.44466.bm@smtp107.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:11:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Eljtt9kVM1nWMysMgIinuNoLQeHFAKI2u78_P2rlrvQHNog x1LL.CYZlj1jSIiHSXB5DY3K0YMTK4lC5f_6slbYUribExy01ZQQncqCxsS_ 4kxkF7ENnfSke1cmEWeRRKK39zIlgH86KHD4LlWS5LipNGEMieoMHN3qog2z a44_u5rR_2wVSFwuBHovPs8Y7sHKTEZ4ygIMBsoKohfBulOPCBiQgTlExWUx wxpomkqSrLz_.UKZ2yuu3O5ELREz87yxzomE3WIr30Pxc85AfIRbLZSyL1_l AyOKzLHP4lOynfY5TOYzAs6KnLTlY9Kwe6yUI.OO5X777xVVzvU7cO2SAP1X onXNrRtyun23GS_DQp.alCYM4k8GNTfoGc5u496_O7SsVuR_HiXdQC6mAzJF .AX3vbPTp1Ns0arsxjIokzPgJMDqp_hOF0tnr0ez_ZXKZSoMVvmaeWdTa8z8 LzKZbcxWe9pAtIuTDrWMtJaQSDdNiPYZVRKeuU8lbNEoeGw8SmB1D6cfuByZ EUa7s9AHCynOBt2_bgx6CZve.h98olGMoe40OFrF1SlABqumfa9by_0KiXcf sz6i9xGZG X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@74.130.200.176 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2013 08:11:36 -0700 PDT From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change in loader or kernel: won't boot with kfreebsd in grub2 Cc: "Andrey V. Elsukov" , Charles Sprickman X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:11:43 -0000 > > But as I said, I don't have a digital camera. > > In any case, sending a graphic image of what ought to be a small text file is very clumsy and inefficient. > > There ought to be a way to capture loader-command output to a file. Question is how to do that at the loader level. > Might I humbly suggest a serial console? You can then capture the data as text. > If this is a server, it's rare these days to not have an IP-KVM solution built-in, and even more rare to not have full console to serial redirection from > +the first BIOS screen all the way to the OS grabbing the port. > Or you can borrow someone's cell phone, I can't recall the last time I saw one without a camera. > Charles This computer is not a server, and I don't have a serial console. Also, this computer, like most computers these days, has no serial or parallel port, though there is a serial header on the motherboard. Only possible connectivity I have is Ethernet, and possibly I could set up WiFi. I have a land phone but no cell phone, at least not yet: behind the times. Tom