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From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
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Subject: Re: svn commit: r337826 - stable/11/bin/ls
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> On 14 August 2018 at 21:41, Rodney W. Grimes
> <freebsd@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> >> Author: kevans
> >> Date: Wed Aug 15 01:29:02 2018
> >> New Revision: 337826
> >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/337826
> >>
> >> Log:
> >>   MFC r337506: ls(1): Enable colors with COLORTERM is set in the environment
> >>
> >>   COLORTERM is the de facto standard, while CLICOLOR is generally specific to
> >>   FreeBSD and ls(1).
> >
> > I have already seen one "Who enabled %&*@(#$@) colored ls output in 12?"
> > Seems that the defaults for xfce terminal is to have COLORTERM.
> 
> If xfce's default is to request colour via the de-facto environment
> variable then we should generally honour it -- the answer to the
> %&*@(#$@) question is "you did, via your terminal's default."

And I pointed that out to them, but it is kinda a POLA, people have
had to take explicit action to get colorls, that is no longer true
and that suprises them when they see it.


-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org