From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 16 13:30: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFE537B404 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:29:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g0GLTgB01997; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:29:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <007201c19ed4$e98bc070$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <15428.34332.870130.2946@guru.mired.org><00cc01c19e06$8dafddf0$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15428.38970.224790.33804@guru.mired.org><00ee01c19e0d$4c518960$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15428.53337.168408.720031@guru.mired.org><01b301c19e55$f11330a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15429.45776.491932.646543@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: USB CF reader (SanDisk) epilog Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:29:41 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike writes: > "fragmentary and incomplete" is redundant. It's possible for something to be incomplete but contiguous (i.e., not fragmentary). > Often a series of guesses at the missing > information is *faster* than trying to extract > the information required to correctly diagnose > the problem. It is usually the _only_ way to diagnose the problem, and even then, it usually isn't really a diagnosis. > In extreme cases, it's faster to fly an > expert to the spot so they can gather information > than it is to try and extract it remotely. You must be thinking of user information. I'm not talking about getting information from users--although that is a problem, too. I'm talking about just getting internal information on how the software works. Typically, no such information is available. So what have you done to figure out why it > occured? Looked for information on the Web, without success. > Have you checked LINT for debugging options > for USB devices ... I have now, after reading your suggestion. There are USB debugging options, but no documentation as to what they produce. > ... and built a kernel with the appropriate > ones enabled? What will happen when I build a kernel with these options enabled? > Yup. The very first thing on the usbd man page > is that usbd handles USB device attachment and > detachment. If those things don't happen, > you don't need it. It's gone now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message