From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed May 4 06:57:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E53EB2C8B3 for ; Wed, 4 May 2016 06:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082511C6E for ; Wed, 4 May 2016 06:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 03895B2C8B2; Wed, 4 May 2016 06:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03276B2C8B1 for ; Wed, 4 May 2016 06:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D74121C6C; Wed, 4 May 2016 06:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local (ppp121-45-225-151.lns20.per1.internode.on.net [121.45.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u446vjZh093629 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 3 May 2016 23:57:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: old ports/packages To: Kevin Oberman , Mathieu Arnold References: <03cc4012-026e-c007-09e1-ee45524f1b95@elischer.org> <1FAFDF989841D03604BB448B@atuin.in.mat.cc> Cc: Julian Elischer , "ports@FreeBSD.org" From: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <5c7682a5-d1b3-9984-b614-1fe0cc6e5876@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 14:57:39 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 06:57:51 -0000 On 4/05/2016 1:54 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Mathieu Arnold > wrote: > > > > +--On 3 mai 2016 12:02:13 +0800 Julian Elischer > > wrote: > | On 2/05/2016 8:39 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > |> +--On 2 mai 2016 18:39:57 +0800 Julian Elischer > > > |> wrote: > |> | Hi guys, > |> | > |> | ok so I see: > |> | > |> | 2014-04-30 ports-mgmt/pkg_install: Replaced by ports-mgmt/pkg > |> | > |> | > |> | So now how do enterprises maintaining appliances etc. > generate packages > |> | for old systems? > |> > |> There is a tag, > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/tags/PKG_INSTALL_EOL/ > |> that gives you the last version to support pkg_install. > Anything after > |> that will not work with it. At all. > |> > | I'm not looking to produce old packages of the ports tree.. I > know the > | ports crew would hate me for that. > | > | What I object to is not having the tools needed to generate MY OWN > | PACKAGES in ports. > > You can generate your own packages from the ports tree, just not > with > pkg_install, it was deprecated three or four years ago, and > remove 19 > months ago. > The best way to generate packages is with ports-mgmt/poudriere, > it will > generate a very nice pkg repository. > > -- > Mathieu Arnold > > > You might also look at ports-mgmt/synth. It is far simpler than > poudriere. While lacking any of the enterprise capabilities of > poudriere, it is a simple tool to support a modern, local pkg > repository of packages for distribution or to support locally > modified ports or ports that need to be built with non-standard options. > > From synth(1): > " The synth program is an advanced concurrent ports building tool > aimed at > system administrators that prefer or require the building of > packages > from source rather than installing official binary packages. > synth will > build packages in a clean environment exactly mirrors the > system that > they are built on, it will create local package repositories > and install > pkg(8) repository configuration file that causes locally built > packages > to be used with the highest priority, all while allowing the > system to > fully upgraded with a single command." > > Its major issue with some is that it is written in Ada, but I just > install the package for synth and never bother with building the Ada > compiler. > -- > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 SO if I have an infrastructure that uses old style packages to deliver data and configuration information to appliances in the field, how does synth help me?