From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 19:41:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B2610656D5 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4D28FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lage12 with SMTP id e12so812041lag.13 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:41:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+Off46p4eB7bQvEHB27DyO7bY+fpBF1PpF8AT0fVtqw=; b=lOAdK/TI6wYsmmuNy1QlQCR4bXqt55marnXEAlHdsYMRWaEeUhuuZArCgvtFKQH8BV SofDu+lzpMSQFgjRxerOU7V4bJennqegNXWVrvgHGovpuIy26AUKTEMBYw6ckSBeAktl FubaebS4s5YWWvVPPzRrIC7R6xkFk++61ah6Y= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=+Off46p4eB7bQvEHB27DyO7bY+fpBF1PpF8AT0fVtqw=; b=dk2E50Kq9xTy5BxUOoeJe9lXMYAW52lHnxDQl2Od/y1hnRGcMF8AOlpRs0OMFx7erU lJXoEzzrw1LGvtdAn8DIDKZxB9MyXsIelE+0csiBxrS2lJT9f4h+dy6+QGbl+kFdygWd vAW0mYjSz0fqvW0CNwEnYahmFzCHQfz1nHqjDrl5yh0wSimtlIKi2Q94O0hiv0l1+y5q oBXEzCPARb5sUfnT+hGOy21T/0fFbK+5t6ZYZVN7AhZE7kzdVFPV6RTQo9muOzpshoRX 5MZxUvZWCidfUWMmc+httifyrR8jlnO4271Qk7wed6smSdqNqtODYW8PRndPJXcl7MkH QBLw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.46.209 with SMTP id x17mr2826370lam.38.1345750863980; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.77.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:41:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:41:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Wemm To: Ken Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkRByVah27WUQoqvmbVOpmdhwujUGBzQXTQ9aMCrvwwEQVa9SiaE8zHGwRI0OOA16QyRAXK Cc: freebsd-stable , re , Ian Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:41:05 -0000 On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Ken Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >> >> > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been >> > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >> > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1. >> > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. >> >> Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify: >> does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or >> that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE? >> >> cheers, Ian >> > > The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates > of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for > release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository > will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think > anything has been decided on when that will stop. A couple of quick comments: * RELENG_9 is still alive and will continue for the forseeable future. You can track 9-STABLE via cvs/cvsup. * This was an accident, not something that we'd planned on to doing. cvs is just something we mostly don't think about anymore for src. The switch was thrown around 4 years ago now, back in 2008. It's 2012 now. * releases (isos, ftp.freebsd.org, etc) have been build from svn since 9.0. All the embedded $FreeBSD$ strings etc are svn-style. If you tried to check out from RELENG_9_0 or RELENG_9_1 (which is missing) from cvs and do a build, the binaries *DO NOT MATCH* the official binaries. What's happening here is that there's no "RELENG_9_1_0_RELEASE" tag in cvs. * Don't expect to see any 10.0-alpha/beta/rc/release/stable to *ever* make it to an official cvs tree. It's probably time to move a freebsd-ified cvs from head to ports. * RIght now you can mirror svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/{stable/9,release/9.1*,etc} to your laptop, and Simon is setting up a US-east coast and US-west coast mirror. You can easily switch your mirrors on the fly if there's a closer/faster one. * We have some "seed" tarballs of recently synced repo images around somewhere. I'll see where they're available. But in a nutshell, you do this: /home/peter/svnsync$ fetch svnmirror-base-r123456.txz /home/peter/svnsync$ tar xf svnmirror-base-r123456.txz /home/peter/svnsync$ svnsync file:///home/peter/svnsync/base and run that from cron with a lock file, probably with "-q" for quiet. Then you can have a local copy of the repo for offline use. It has the same repo uuid so you can svn switch/relocate at will. I personally on my laptop. You can do your own personal svnsync all the way from rev 0, but it takes some time. It's more time efficient to start with a seed and let it catch up. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell