Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:41:03 -0700 From: Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> To: Ken Smith <kensmith@buffalo.edu> Cc: freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, re <re@freebsd.org>, Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... Message-ID: <CAGE5yCox=R2eF2woH12sKRVbhbQDF%2BxPT=d5G-cLHDOv9bVfmw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu>
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On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Ken Smith <kensmith@buffalo.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 23:12 +1000, Ian Smith wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote:
>>
>> > With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been
>> > decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So
>> > csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1.
>> > If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1.
>>
>> Assuming the stupid question is the one you didn't ask, just to clarify:
>> does this mean that c*sup won't work with these RCs in particular, or
>> that CVS is dead and SVN becomes mandatory from 9.1-RELEASE?
>>
>> cheers, Ian
>>
>
> The latter. If you are not using FreeBSD-Update to handle the updates
> of a machine you'll need to update your source tree using SVN for
> release branches (releng/*) from now on. Updates of the CVS repository
> will continue for the existing stable/* and head for now. I don't think
> anything has been decided on when that will stop.
A couple of quick comments:
* RELENG_9 is still alive and will continue for the forseeable future.
You can track 9-STABLE via cvs/cvsup.
* This was an accident, not something that we'd planned on to doing.
cvs is just something we mostly don't think about anymore for src.
The switch was thrown around 4 years ago now, back in 2008. It's 2012
now.
* releases (isos, ftp.freebsd.org, etc) have been build from svn since
9.0. All the embedded $FreeBSD$ strings etc are svn-style. If you
tried to check out from RELENG_9_0 or RELENG_9_1 (which is missing)
from cvs and do a build, the binaries *DO NOT MATCH* the official
binaries. What's happening here is that there's no
"RELENG_9_1_0_RELEASE" tag in cvs.
* Don't expect to see any 10.0-alpha/beta/rc/release/stable to *ever*
make it to an official cvs tree. It's probably time to move a
freebsd-ified cvs from head to ports.
* RIght now you can mirror
svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/{stable/9,release/9.1*,etc} to your laptop,
and Simon is setting up a US-east coast and US-west coast mirror. You
can easily switch your mirrors on the fly if there's a closer/faster
one.
* We have some "seed" tarballs of recently synced repo images around
somewhere. I'll see where they're available. But in a nutshell, you
do this:
/home/peter/svnsync$ fetch svnmirror-base-r123456.txz
/home/peter/svnsync$ tar xf svnmirror-base-r123456.txz
/home/peter/svnsync$ svnsync file:///home/peter/svnsync/base
and run that from cron with a lock file, probably with "-q" for quiet.
Then you can have a local copy of the repo for offline use. It has
the same repo uuid so you can svn switch/relocate at will. I
personally on my laptop.
You can do your own personal svnsync all the way from rev 0, but it
takes some time. It's more time efficient to start with a seed and
let it catch up.
--
Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV
"All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5
"If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete
themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell
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