From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 29 07:56:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A2516A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:56:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A9B43D46 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:56:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c211-30-75-229.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.75.229]) j3T7ufnm001516 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:56:42 +1000 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1])j3T7ufXw003170; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:56:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost)j3T7ueAe003169; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:56:40 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:56:40 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: /dev/null Message-ID: <20050429075640.GB232@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <57775.216.177.243.35.1114633009.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <20050427204939.GA796@uk.tiscali.com> <53015.216.177.243.35.1114635611.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <20050427212835.GA87673@uk.tiscali.com> <64018.216.177.243.35.1114641057.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <42701D35.6020307@gmail.com> <42703671.8060707@attglobal.net> <59642.216.177.243.35.1114655240.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <20050428082931.GA232@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <54623.216.177.243.35.1114717482.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54623.216.177.243.35.1114717482.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't build kernel [with CONFIG this time][[[FIXED]]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:56:51 -0000 On Thu, 2005-Apr-28 12:44:42 -0700, /dev/null wrote: >Good point(s). I sure wish I could just use 1 giant can capacitor that >simply fills as required and releases as necessary. That won't work - there's too much inductance between (and inside) the giant can capacitor and the electronics. The bypasses that matter for logic transitions are the surface-mount chip ceramics that are on the RAM stick, on the CPU carrier and next to (under) the northbridge. >simpler. On a sad note, after a long period of usage it still fails. So >it seems that the new CPU is the culprit (CPU's cache?). Anyway, I might >disable the CPU's cache in the bios settings and see what happens, while >I wait for another CPU. Try under-clocking a bit, or using more conservative memory timings (especially if you've set you motherboard to "aggressive" timings). -- Peter Jeremy