From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 17:16:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82896106566B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0748FC14 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-49-179.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.49.179]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E473CC48; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:16:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q7KHGHkH004146; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:16:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:16:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Message-Id: <20120820191617.66efd947.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120820170517.GA17147@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120820142432.GA14816@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120820180628.b3e3f552.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120820170517.GA17147@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doom, quake, hexen... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:16:20 -0000 On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:05:17 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > > > > > Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection > > > which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have > > > tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. > > > > > > games/uhexen: http://pastebin.com/ZaJ74eaa > > > > MIDI load failed:/etc/timidity.cfg: No such file or directory > > > > Install timidity++ from ports to get MIDI background music support. > > Actually I have compiled it WITHOUT_MUSIC. Anyway, recompiling with background > music support does not make things any better: > > Starting Hexen! > XDM authorization key matches an existing client!V_Init: allocate screens. > M_LoadDefaults: Load system defaults. > W_Init: Init WADfiles. > DEMO IWAD detected! > Z_Init: Init zone memory allocation daemon. > MN_Init: Init menu system. > CT_Init: Init chat mode data. > S_InitScript > SN_InitSequenceScript: Registering sound sequences. > I_Init: Setting up machine state. > SDL Audio opened successfully. > ST_Init: Init startup screen. > Executable: U-Hexen 0.5 build Aug 20 2012. > R_Init: Init Hexen refresh daemonTextures Bus error (core dumped) "Bus error" doesn't sound good. > > > games/doom: http://pastebin.com/XdrCwzvn > > > > doom-1.10_5 is only for i386, while you are running amd64. > > > > A precise message. > > Does not make me any happier. But at least it tells the truth from the beginning. > > > games/quake2lnx even pretends to do something: it opens a tiny X11 > > > window with some flickering rubbish and plays some farting sounds to > > > the audio system. > > > > > > Is there any working 3D shooter in the ports collection my 8 year old > > > son could enjoy? > > > > How about OpenArena? I'm currently playing it with pals via > > Internet. Okay, not at this moment, as I'm writing this > > message, obviously... :-) > > This is some multiuser game, isn't it? I was looking for something one > could play alone, like Doom or Hexen. You actually have a series of levels to play against computer enemies (AI), but it's not that it contains a "story" like DooM or Quake. > I have some WADs from the old > DOS CDs and from BBSes. Try to load them with lsdldoom or prboom (I've tried both in the past). > > First make sure all your 3D stuff runs fine. Install "xlockmore" > > and test it with: > > > > % xlock -nolock -mode lament > > % xlock -nolock -mode fire > > > > Works fine? > > Yes, it does. In fact, I use xlock as my screensaver all the time. Very good, so there will be _no_ problem related to 3D, which often is the main issue for those games. > > Next consideration: > > > > Games in ports collection that run out of the box (even though I > > still have 8.2-STABLE/x86 here) include DooM 3 and Quake 4. > > If I wanted a linux game, I would use the linux notebook. I am very > reluctant in install half-a-penguin on my FreeBSD box just to play a > game. I also had to apply some tweaks to get those games running, it's at least not trivial. > > I've > > also tried RTCW, but except a grey fullscreen I get nothing. > > Music plays, I can move the mouse and listen to the main menu > > choices "clicking", but I don't see anything. For older DooM > > ports, I've successfully been playing DooM, DooM II and Heretic > > using lsdldoom port on a 300 MHz P2. Note lsdldoom also supports > > OpenGL graphics. > > Which port is it? "make search key=lsdldoom" finds nothing. Oh, it's "doomlegacy". > > I could also play Quake, Quake 2 from ports, > > and Jedi Knight II via wine. > > Oh, is there really nothing native? No, that game is far too old, but Quake and Quake 2 have ports (to native FreeBSD) which work very nicely with the original files from the DOS version. Still it was playable more than 5 years ago, so even considering the ongoing disimprovement, it should run today. :-) Maybe even other older DOS shooters (Duke Nukem 3D, Chasm, Shadow Warrior, Dark Forces, Blood and so on) could be easily run using a VM or emulator? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...