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[209.85.210.49]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o186sm9533993oia.27.2020.04.19.05.09.20 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Apr 2020 05:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f49.google.com with SMTP id b13so5541711oti.3; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 05:09:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7ca:: with SMTP id 68mr5989874oto.267.1587298160200; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 05:09:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:08:50 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wayland on FreeBSD To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Cc: Jan Beich , Shane Ambler , "ngor@antonovs.family" , "raichoo@acmelabs.space" , "contact@evilham.com" , gljennjohn@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 494pXf3V8Zz48xW X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=EVkNCyw1; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::241) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-x11@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[8]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.14)[ip: (0.10), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:09:23 -0000 On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 1:50 PM Jan Beich wrote: > Many, bsdstats.org should have some numbers from those who opted in. > wlroots-based compositors have very good support and can be tested > without leaving the comfort zone of xorg-server: > > - x11-wm/cage: kiosk, good for nesting > - x11-wm/hikari: stacking with some tiling, developed on FreeBSD > - x11-wm/sway: manual tiling, often first to adopt new wlroots features > - x11-wm/wayfire: stacking with some tiling, many plugins > > Elsewhere the situation isn't as good (correct me): > - Gnome Wayland is stable upstream but not ported due to logind (from systemd) > - KDE5 on Wayland maybe buggy upstream and hasn't been QA'd on FreeBSD by kde@ team yet > - Enlightenment in ports/ currently fails to build with Wayland support > - Weston port is abandoned due to being poor fit for day-to-day usage > > I'm using Sway myself primarily with X11 applications. For example, > "vblank_mode=0 glxgears" shows 3x more FPS than on real Xorg server. ;) I am working on Enlightenment 0.23.1 that has Wayland support, its full featured WM with long tradition, works not stable, second new life sparked recently, the patch has been updated (big thank you to Shane Ambler), the new version should show up in the port tree shortly :-) https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=245596 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=245594 I can see there is already a Wayland community here in FreeBSD why don't we update WIKI to make it work ouf of the box if its that good as people say?? :-) I have no access to edit WIKI and I am really surprised it seems dead.. What better place to keep frequently updated as central point of information? External forums like Linux? :-( PLEASE BRING BACK THE FREEBSD WIKI TO LIFE :-) Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info