From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Apr 2 16:54:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.nc.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A6937B71F for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:54:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) Received: from stealth.dummynet ([24.25.3.190]) by mail7.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:52:55 -0400 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.dummynet (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f32NrSC02313; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:53:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:53:28 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Terry Lambert Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Test Message-ID: <20010402195328.B1874@nc.rr.com> References: <200104011906.f31J6fE04073@stealth.dummynet> <200104020514.WAA10276@usr05.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104020514.WAA10276@usr05.primenet.com>; from tlambert@primenet.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 05:14:47AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert: |> |> Let's see if we can post to the FreeBSD lists again now, despite silly |> Postfix EHLO DNS rejection rules that don't account for internal domains... | |What's silly about requiring that it be possible to contact |your postmaster address before a machine is willing to take |responsibility for email delivery which might fail? I realize it must be a common spammer pattern to make use of ISP that doesn't list all their IPs in DNS (maybe they're the cheapest -- I don't know). But for legitimate FreeBSD users sending mail from such IPs, or connecting from inside a masquaraded firewall where the internal DNS hostname sendmail wants to put in the EHLO is not known to the outside world, this adds a few tripwires to getting mail on the FreeBSD lists. Aside from the spammer no-DNS pattern, requiring FreeBSD users to only use IPs with names in DNS is a bit silly. It's like requiring everyone to have a listed phone number in the local white pages. It's not that big a deal to me anymore since I have a workaround. Using sendmail's mailertable, I now route mail through my ISP's SMTP server only for destinations at FreeBSD.org. No other mailing list cares. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message