From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Aug 18 12:21:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712DDDDD8D4 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1666C24F for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [217.29.44.10]) by gate2.intern.punkt.de with ESMTP id v7ICLLtI011271; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:21:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [217.29.44.195] ([217.29.44.195]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v7ICLL4w029133; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:21:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) From: "Patrick M. Hausen" Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8CA89453-BF34-44D9-A2A6-FF465C166C46"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: recommendations for file server based zfs appliance Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:21:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20170818120351.GA37121@shell-jail> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org To: Stefan Hagen References: <750ee484-a43e-c96f-bca2-d36825943dde@ingresso.co.uk> <61BB2282-5D66-410E-A4E8-CE7D78D8898B@punkt.de> <20170818120351.GA37121@shell-jail> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:21:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_8CA89453-BF34-44D9-A2A6-FF465C166C46 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi! > Am 18.08.2017 um 14:03 schrieb Stefan Hagen = : >=20 > * Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >>> Am 18.08.2017 um 11:19 schrieb Pete French = : >>> The HP micro servers work very well, and you can pick them up = remakably cheaply [...] >>> Not sure about ECC memory support there though. >>=20 >> They do support ECC, no problem. >>=20 >> They are available with different CPU configurations from >> as Pete said remarkably cheap Celeron D based systems >> up to Xeon CPUs. >=20 > I've just sold my Microserver Gen8 (Xeon) just recently. > It's a beautiful little machine, but I didn't make me happy in the = long run. >=20 > Reasons: > - Limited to 8GB Ram in total > - Only 4 HDDs > - JBOD support is not great > - Harddrives are never going to sleep (not supported) >=20 > Installing FreeBSD was harder than expected. The machine refused to = boot FreeBSD > from the internal non-raid SATA ports. I didn't try FreeNAS though. smbios.system.product=3D"ProLiant MicroServer Gen8" CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1220L V2 @ 2.30GHz (2294.80-MHz K8-class = CPU) 16 GB RAM, FreeBSD installation was no problem at all. What do you mean by "JBOD support"? Disable RAID in the systems BIOS setup, put ZFS on AHCI drives ... ahci0: port = 0x10c0-0x10c7,0x10c8-0x10cb,0x10d0-0x10d7,0x10d8-0x10db,0x10e0-0x10ff = mem 0xfacd0000-0xfacd07ff irq 17 at device 31.2 on pci0 ahci0: [ITHREAD] ahci0: AHCI v1.30 with 6 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich0: [ITHREAD] ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-8 SATA 3.x device ada0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 1907729MB (3907029168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) This is our office file, print and mail server. No FreeNAS this time, just plain FreeBSD. Patrick --Apple-Mail=_8CA89453-BF34-44D9-A2A6-FF465C166C46 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJZltvBAAoJEJBvLuLt2olcxZMIAKAmAZ6pZPweg2DbV/j68wRI NRbiRcZtdF6XtQQq7UwwVRbG5IrbSAriN2Fu1b6PhbhT3Qr8ZgYhsJppBneUBb+p 88gBonMR1Ze2/yuBL4Pc2OTzVvQ65lYqyZ2J7rbJrqfdKBtsGGrX4Qe2E3dWq4bX VAuMIi0Nqw1DgsKf5LQPumL/K60hoTB2veyIYqRS52JkbnP3B9GdzjHxwVaAJZlM 4zsxIDRgjkP5uJxI6uaxL9wc5bc8qVcvzsttW7E74QBuIziJLH8GgIFPzUA9qUYQ WyCk3es29r4Bh/NGvXgPjr2xze1ZCcHeqZva34T0nFmA0o9ELaZs5VOKyWQMOfo= =5eZq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_8CA89453-BF34-44D9-A2A6-FF465C166C46--