From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 12 10:04:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6A316A403 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from ferengi.borderworlds.dk (ferengi.borderworlds.dk [80.166.152.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E54843D5D for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:04:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from dominion.borderworlds.dk (dominion.borderworlds.dk [10.1.0.10]) by ferengi.borderworlds.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6ADB817 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:04:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dominion.borderworlds.dk (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 97E978C8; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:04:01 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <45066E19.2040405@kuehlbox.de> From: Christian Laursen Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:04:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Ivan Voras's message of "Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:40:31 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: gjournal and Softupdates X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:04:11 -0000 Ivan Voras writes: > - todays desktop drives can lie about writing data. SoftUpdates relies > on some assumptions about when the data is physically written to > media, and those are not always valid today I think journaling relies on the same assumptions. However, with journaling you can have filesystem corruption and not know about it. With fsck, bg or not, at least you will know. -- Christian Laursen