From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 4 21:14:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1F937B401 for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 21:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2955F43FBF for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 21:14:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.dougb.net (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with SMTP id <2003050504143700300642kle>; Mon, 5 May 2003 04:14:37 +0000 Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 21:14:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: Peter Schultz In-Reply-To: <3EB51C7B.9020505@jocose.org> Message-ID: <20030504211023.K13155@znfgre.qbhto.arg> References: <3EB450E0.9060702@octopus.com.au> <20030503235911.GA64288@shall.anarcat.ath.cx> <20030503.191127.113104360.imp@bsdimp.com> <3EB51C7B.9020505@jocose.org> Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Floppy Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 04:14:40 -0000 On Sun, 4 May 2003, Peter Schultz wrote: > Since we need to keep the floppies, why don't we create a number of > custom kern.flp images? This is a current issue of vital importance and > must not be ingnored any longer. Why, a simple rackmount system > compatible kernel.gz could easily be less than 1MB in size. > > Why insist kern.flp to be all things to all people? That is what seems > to be the root of the problem here. Please forgive me if there are > further binding issues holding the floppies in the position that they're > currently in, but I don't see such a big problem in having some custom > kernels defined for creating a set of kern.flps that people can choose > from in order to match their set of requirements. FreeBSD is already > quite complex and to add a few more options in this area is not too much > to ask of the installer's brain capacity. You didn't specify in your post exactly what you plan to use those floppies for. If you're interested just in installation issues, there are already extra floppies with drivers needed by less popular hardware. If you're interested in floppy-size bootable systems for _other_ purposes, then take a look at the picobsd port. You can build floppy size systems for all kinds of purposes. By combining a picobsd bootable floppy on an El Torrito CD you can do a lot of cool stuff. Hope this helps, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection