From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Mar 19 22:14:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CAE14F3A for ; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:14:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA07229; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:43:47 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id QAA88287; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:43:46 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19990320164346.Q429@lemis.com> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:43:46 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Brett Glass Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Use of FreeBSD-STABLE (was: Oddity in name resolution) References: <19990318232625.A62933@scientia.demon.co.uk> <4.1.19990318210045.03f2e1a0@localhost> <19990319155931.V429@lemis.com> <4.1.19990319034914.00c485b0@localhost> <19990319144842.A27151@la.best.com> <4.1.19990319165539.03f58ad0@localhost> <19990320122031.M429@lemis.com> <4.1.19990319192514.00c34220@localhost> <19990320132412.N429@lemis.com> <4.1.19990319230014.03f4e680@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990319230014.03f4e680@localhost>; from Brett Glass on Fri, Mar 19, 1999 at 11:07:31PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 19 March 1999 at 23:07:31 -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > At 01:24 PM 3/20/99 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> The text is being overly cautious. In particular, it doesn't mention >> that all these problems exist for all software, and that despite all >> that, -STABLE is the best we have at any particular time. > > Again, it depends on what you mean by "best." In -STABLE, the docs > don't necessarily match the software, This is the case with -RELEASE as well. It shouldn't happen in -STABLE. > and there isn't as much end user experience with the build. This can > make it less desirable than an older -RELEASE. I don't think so. The differences are minor. >> We have never yet brought out a -RELEASE which hasn't caused >> problems for somebody, and we almost certainly never will. > > True. But those problems are known quantities due to the large number > of users of -RELEASE versions. One can never know whether a problem > will crop up with a particular day's -STABLE build because one > happened to pick the wrong day. It's therefore more likely that > you'll ask about a problem and be told, "You must be mistaken; > I've never had that problem." > > The daemon you know can be better than the daemon you don't. > >> Is that so hard to understand? > > I understand your idea, but again, it doesn't match everyone's idea > of what's best to run. Again, we go with proven versions even if they > have bugs -- so long as the bugs are KNOWN and aren't going to affect > us. Yes, that's incredibly anal-retentive conservative, but that's > also what the users want. This is what -STABLE is for. We have -CURRENT for new stuff. -STABLE is for bug fixes which have been tested and put back into the release. You have a choice: -RELEASE as it is, or -RELEASE with some bugs fixed. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message